Level 50 alliance raids

[MistakeNot]

Please for the love of Hydaelyn remove level 50 raids from the roulette, I'm so sick of getting these terrible raids over, and over, and over, and OVER. Honestly, this has been a problem for far too long, remake the raids or remove this trash from the roulette.

You could offer me an instant level 90, you could offer me capped Tomes, no amount of rewards would be worth pressing a single button over and over and over on what essentially are target dummies for 30 mins.

Why are the devs so adamant on keeping these trash 10 year old raids in rotation with no changes? Do they even listen to player feed back? I mean genuinely, this has been a recurring issue for English speakers for a long time, the oldest post I found was about 4 years ago, but all they did was remove the IL reduction trick. Wow amazing, thanks so much for that, is what I would be saying if there was actually any noticeable difference in how often I get these brain dead raids. Anyway, my 30m timer for leaving the dungeon is up, perhaps this time I will get placed into a raid where I can actually press more than two buttons (but I doubt it).

If you don't want to get those raids, don't run alliance roulette. It is as easy as that.

The whole point of the roulettes is to provide people to fill whatever instances need people, so those who want to run a specific instance can easier do so.
The roulette rewards is essentially a bribe to make people run the same old instances over and over and over just to provide warm bodies for instances.

[Doozer]

If you don't want to get those raids, don't run alliance roulette. It is as easy as that.

The whole point of the roulettes is to provide people to fill whatever instances need people, so those who want to run a specific instance can easier do so.
The roulette rewards is essentially a bribe to make people run the same old instances over and over and over just to provide warm bodies for instances.

It clearly doesn't work as intended when 90% of the raids are CT and when I've queued for alliance raids directly, it can take over an hour to get in, or never at all. Like 6 months ago I did an experiment and queued for Paradigm's Breach as a DPS and after 7 hours of waiting I had to give up.

It disproportionately favours lower content because that's what more people have unlocked, but it causes higher level raids to never fill. To say this is by design is to say the design is flawed.

[MistakeNot]

It clearly doesn't work as intended when 90% of the raids are CT and when I've queued for alliance raids directly, it can take over an hour to get in, or never at all. Like 6 months ago I did an experiment and queued for Paradigm's Breach as a DPS and after 7 hours of waiting I had to give up.

It disproportionately favours lower content because that's what more people have unlocked, but it causes higher level raids to never fill. To say this is by design is to say the design is flawed.

If the higher level raids never fill, it is because nobody queues for them. But that does not match my experience. Running Alliance Roulette I get one of the CT raids about half the time, and about half the time one of the others.

[Doozer]

Don't queue for a single Alliance Raid. Queue for multiple. The game will place you into the first available one, just as it does with the Roulette, but you won't have to worry about it being CT.

I think you're misunderstanding. There's reason for doing alliance raid roulette, that you can't get by queuing for things directly. But it skews so heavily towards CT that people directly queuing for higher level raids sometimes never get in. How is that a difficult concept to understand? If I join a roulette it's because I want to fill slots within all the content available, not just do CT every day when I know people also queue for 60/70/80 alliance raids.

If the higher level raids never fill, it is because nobody queues for them.

I queue for them, for glamours, and I know other people do too. It's just not enough people to enter with just that, hence what the roulette is for. Like I said in the post you quoted, I queued for Paradigm's Breach for 7 hours straight. I was in the queue, uninterrupted, for 7 hours. I didn't get in because the alliance raid roulette didn't fill in the rest of the slots and instead just dumped people into CT or something else lower level. I know there's at least 23 other people on my data center queuing for alliance raid roulette at any given time, so why didn't it ever pop for me? Answer that.

[Desna]

They're GOOD raids. the issues are just that they're old and need some love. Syrcus needs the impact of it's mechanics to actually HURT. If people stack those stack markers on the last boss there should be a wipe not little boo boos. Lab needs an update so that team C isn't useless. Seriously...if you go in there on Team C...you are completely shafted in there, second boss you won't even participate....
World of Darkness....same deal, make the mechanics punish people for ignoring them. Toss some nice glam items into the loot table and they would really be worth it and more fun.

Really, another quality of life thing they could do is expand the Limited leveling roulette button you can click in duty finder settings to include raids...offer better incentives for max level players to que without it to keep the pool of players good. everybody wins.

[Lucyfurr1988]

It clearly doesn't work as intended when 90% of the raids are CT and when I've queued for alliance raids directly, it can take over an hour to get in, or never at all. Like 6 months ago I did an experiment and queued for Paradigm's Breach as a DPS and after 7 hours of waiting I had to give up.

It disproportionately favours lower content because that's what more people have unlocked, but it causes higher level raids to never fill. To say this is by design is to say the design is flawed.

i call BS. i regularly queue for higher level alliance raids cause i enjoy them and never have had to wait for longer than 30 minutes.

[vetch]

The whole point of the roulettes is to provide people to fill whatever instances need people, so those who want to run a specific instance can easier do so.
The roulette rewards is essentially a bribe to make people run the same old instances over and over and over just to provide warm bodies for instances.

No, the purpose of a system is what it does.

A roulette's function is to get first-timers a quicker queue once (1 time) and afterward to supply veterans with busywork in exchange for currencies and EXP to get through the game's various artificial gating mechanisms (between 0-∞ times).

Since purpose of the system is to do both, veterans are well within their rights to stop participating when the tedium outweighs the reward.

[MistakeNot]

No, the purpose of a system is what it does.

No, that is not correct.
The purpose of a system is whatever the designers designed it for.
What a system actually does may or may not match its purpose.