Hyur Midlander Female Face 1 changes

[LlymlaenGreene]

a few more screenshots to proof that is not just lightning, this is a definitely another character, i am not a fantasia enjoyer, i play with this character since start and i still have my arr fanta in inventory, because i love howe my lady looks and she is an extension of me, i want graphic updates, this is really cool, but give as the same characters, you no need to change it anything lol!
People say that you need to see your character in benchmark, so let us see

this is smile my original princess


these some of pictures a new character, look at this smile lol

[LlymlaenGreene]

this is okay, she really looks nice and if you like that nice :3 but this is another face, my character has midlander 1 and there is a huge difference between an original and a new character :3

[Araxes]

I mean, i already opened a thread on this but yeah. Face 1 is now completely different and unrecognizable.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...r-Face-1/page2

Edit: After scrolling through my own post, i saw that you already commented on mine and still opened a new one. Why?

[LlymlaenGreene]

hello if you mean me i just write here because this thread about the type 1 midlander :3

[LlymlaenGreene]

some more screenshots with old and new
old

new

be honest here this looks a quite same, but we see what we get in custscenes
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new


the custcenes
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new

[GrizzlyTank]

The change/removal to that white dot is making these comparisons so much worse.

[Araxes]

hello if you mean me i just write here because this thread about the type 1 midlander :3

I obviously meant the OP^^

[noumen0nn]

So after much more comparison and investigation, I figured out what exactly is giving me such an uncanny reaction to the new model (let this also serve as refutation to the people still claiming this is "just lighting"):



In this side by side comparison, you can see that her cheeks have shrunken back significantly where they meet her nostrils, causing her nose to look much bigger and wider overall. This is nose 4, which I choose because it is the smallest and thinnest option available, so I don't like that it has been given such a larger emphasis in her facial balance.



Here's both traces overlayed on her benchmark appearance for a better visual of what I mean. Additionally, in this image you can see that the shape of her eye has been changed; her lower eyelid has a much more pronounced upward slant. You can see how much of her old eye was cut off by comparing the red and green lines. To me, this makes her look like she is squinting all the time.



Here are the clean screenshots in case anyone wants to judge my linework. I definitely didn't do a perfect job, but the nostril and eye differences are dramatic enough that it doesn't really matter.

Again, I feel the need to ask: Why these arbitrary changes? In my personal opinion the benchmark face doesn't look more natural or realistic aside from textures, and it came at the cost of a pretty large alteration to the overall balance of her face. What would have been wrong with just using the same general sculpt and updating the textures/lighting/etc?

(P.S. if anyone is wondering if these differences are because the faces might be very slightly rotated from one another, I made sure they weren't by selecting the inn background and making sure that not a single background element moved so much as a pixel when I tabbed between the game and the benchmark.)

Sorry in advance that I'm about to post this in every fem midlander thread, but I hope it can offer some more explanation as to what's been bugging all of us (especially since I imagine a LOT of us use nose 4), as well as provide more grounded feedback for the devs.

[1313]

I'm also a face 1 Midlander with concerns. With current looks they looked like they had their eyes bulged out in fear, at worst, and only sometimes. The new stuff I saw in the benchmark made my character go from a pretty, young adult, to someone who looks like they're 14 and not even the same person.

[Yenrz]

It's to the point that Face 2 looks more faithful to my character's vision than the Face 1 update.


Original | Graphical update different face preset | Vanilla Graphical update

If this isn't fixed I'll probably be switching, unfortunately




Lighting asides, the shape of the eyes is totally different. Feels like they went too far with making everything conventionally prettier and more "moe". My midlander went from being part asian to full on european RIP