DT releases in TWO MONTHS - they aren't going to overhaul the graphics update now.

[Warkupo]

Also, it seems like its only the official forums everyone is screaming with torches and pitch forks - Twitter, Reddit everyone else is responding with people much more positive and happy, so don't think the forums are the majority and everyone hates it. And attacking the devs and Yoshi P won't solve anything. Media tour is starting. Get on the train or get off.

The official forums feedback naturally attracts more negative responses; people assume the developers look at their official forums over sources like reddit or twitter, when this actually isn't the case. The level of engagement for a post here is what... maybe 40-60 likes if its' really popular? Meanwhile a similar topic on Reddit or Twitter has thousands of upvotes of engagement. It's folly to assume the winning opinion on the official forums carries anywhere near the same weight as more diverse conversations happening on Reddit, Twitter, or wherever else.

[Batbrat]

I understand this thread but I don't think it's entirely right. There's a lot of posts here, but none of them mean anything.
Your feedback is useless if it's just complaining and not actually feedback.
Try to compose yourselves enough to write statements that are useful.

Useful: "The fangs of the keepers are too short! Please make them long again!
Useless: "I dont like the keepers fangs!"

Version 1 gives clear instructions
Version 2 is just your feelings. Your feelings leave no instructions.
Please type less of your feelings, and more direct suggestions.

Direct suggestions. DIRECT. Suggestions. Please make direct APPLICABLE suggestions.

[Estheim]

They won't overhaul, but I do believe they said they'll be tweaking some things. I am looking forwards to seeing the changes on console, but I can understand seeing some of the pictures how jarring the changes look for some. Either way, I believe they'll have a team working on this, just as they have teams for environments and teams for dungeons etc, so it should detract from work happening to other things.

[Carin-Eri]

The official forums feedback naturally attracts more negative responses; people assume the developers look at their official forums over sources like reddit or twitter, when this actually isn't the case. The level of engagement for a post here is what... maybe 40-60 likes if its' really popular? Meanwhile a similar topic on Reddit or Twitter has thousands of upvotes of engagement. It's folly to assume the winning opinion on the official forums carries anywhere near the same weight as more diverse conversations happening on Reddit, Twitter, or wherever else.

Forced to agree - the best we could really hope is that Redditors post links to the high-engagement threads on the subject here.

[LianaThorne]

You all realize they aren't going to toss out years of work because you all are screaming on the forums, right? It's understandable after 10 years with the same graphical style, changes are going to be alarming and jarring, and not everyone is going to be happy. But they aren't going to suddenly in the next TWO months rework everything based on forum complaints.

These are the updates. They might be able to do minor tweaks here and there, but I am seeing folks demand the update be option, they toss the entire thing out and start over or just flat-out delay Dawntrail to redo it and that is NOT happening.

You're going to get your fantasia, you will make the new graphics work for you...or you won't. It really is that simple. I understand many folks are upset, but to expect the FF14 team is going to do some massive changes in just two months isn't realistic. They have the benchmark because this is how the characters are going to look.

Also, to judge based solely on the CC and a benchmark and not actually be in the game world to take advantage of the new lighting and how things interact is a bit jumping the gun. I am sure they will release tweaks in post 7.0 patches as well, but nothing is going to be massively drastic. This is what the devs went with. End of story. Some of the changes I am seeing folks demand on here could take MONTHS. We don't have that kind of time.

Also, it seems like its only the official forums everyone is screaming with torches and pitch forks - Twitter, Reddit everyone else is responding with people much more positive and happy, so don't think the forums are the majority and everyone hates it. And attacking the devs and Yoshi P won't solve anything. Media tour is starting. Get on the train or get off.

Feedback should be welcome regardless of the circumstances.

Also, as far as "get on or get off", a large chunk of people will just mod the game either way. I can also see this being a catalyst for vanilla players to be pushed towards using them for the first time if the way characters look now isn't good enough for them. Kind of an irrelevant comment/threat to make imo when people have been dodging "get on or get off" for years now.

[Naple]

So OP is telling us the developer decisions are absolute and that our feedback is useless. Being a corporate bootlicker is just as bad as someone that screams negativity into the void. I'm glad you're fine with the proposed state of the game, but some of us actually want the game to be better.

[Evergrey]

So OP is telling us the developer decisions are absolute and that our feedback is useless. Being a corporate bootlicker is just as bad as someone that screams negativity into the void. I'm glad you're fine with the proposed state of the game, but some of us actually want the game to be better.

What's better for some might be worse for others.
I see a lot of people complaining but I also see people who are happy with the changes.
I see some who dislike the changes to a certain face while others are thrilled with the changes for that very same face.
Who should SE listen to? Should they reverse the changes for those who dislike it, or keep them for those who like them?
Which one is better?

I agree that there are a lot that could get better, like the lighting, lips, eyes to mention the big ones.
I see many who say that "it's not even the same character anymore", where me, as someone who hasn't played that character for x years barely see any difference.
Some are ofc more noticable than others. But many I think more or less look the same but smoother features and less sharp edges.
The changes are bigger to some than others since there are those who have gotten familiar with a character for years and the features are so deeply imprinted that any change will be noticable.
I honestly think that there are many who overreact to the innitial shock that comes with the benchmark.
That being said, there are things that certainly needs more finetuning, and the Benchmark isn't the final product, as they've said that they'll keep on refining things.

[VerdeLuck]

So OP is telling us the developer decisions are absolute and that our feedback is useless. Being a corporate bootlicker is just as bad as someone that screams negativity into the void. I'm glad you're fine with the proposed state of the game, but some of us actually want the game to be better.

To be fair, EN feedback is mostly useless regardless. Time and time again they've shown they really don't read the EN forums and just read the JP forums.

[CNitsah]

The launch gonna be a mess. It's the one thing that was supposed to kinda be the "redemption" (word is strong, but I don't have any better for now) after the mixed reception of the EW patch, and it's already going south, when it's they not even finished (I you ran the Benchmark with your game data, you can see some of the haircuts have not been fixed yet). DT launch will look that, and people will be mad. And this time everyone will be affected, not only the endgame players/players that completed their backlog. I expect some really bad press.

[EliaStormblade]

There aren't going to be wide sweeping changes or rollbacks, but they can take care of technical issues and losses of clan-specific features (like pupil sizes between Rava and Veena), hair clipping into the heads where it didn't before, bits of hair being gone outright, or the fact that Moonie fangs are way too small.