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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    They can't just delay the graphics update and release Dawntrail. Dawntrail was made with the graphics update. You can't delay the graphics update without delaying female hrothgar. They aren't going to push back including the new race. End of the day. Dawntrail isn't being delayed, that was guaranteed. The train has left the station. The media tour is happening in a few short weeks. They won't please everyone. Many folks will probably never be happy. I am sure they will tweak things that they can, but I am seeing a lot of unrealistic demands and expectations.
    Why are you so upset that people are providing feedback? Square is not going to call you back btw.
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  2. #52
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    Honestly, OP...I think you're just triggered by that one thread's title that you felt the need to make your own thread. No one is attacking Yoshi P or the devs, people are providing feedback and some are expressing how they feel about the changes.

    Stop trying to gaslight people into silence when they should be providing feedback. No one's demanding immediate change- people just want to be heard and hope that maybe they can have some changes so they can enjoy the expansion with the characters they knew and loved.

    EW was delayed because Yoshi P felt like it needed to and EW introduced a new race as well.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    Honestly, OP...I think you're just triggered by that one thread's title that you felt the need to make your own thread. No one is attacking Yoshi P or the devs, people are providing feedback and some are expressing how they feel about the changes.

    Stop trying to gaslight people into silence when they should be providing feedback. No one's demanding immediate change- people just want to be heard and hope that maybe they can have some changes so they can enjoy the expansion with the characters they knew and loved.

    EW was delayed because Yoshi P felt like it needed to and EW introduced a new race as well.
    "After the release of the benchmark, we will continue to make improvements to the game's visual fidelity in the lead up to the release of FINAL FANTASY XIV: Dawntrail." From the benchmark page tucked away as the wonderful fine red print..
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    Note: Taking advice from a players alt, is like taking advice from a voice in a dark room. Criticism is a two way street remember that!!

  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by cakesphere View Post
    Why are you so upset that people are providing feedback? Square is not going to call you back btw.
    I was going to comment the same. Customers of a product are giving feedback on the changes in the space provided by the devs to give feedback... why are they getting upset on behalf of people they don't even know!?

    This is a live service game, adapting to continued feedback is needed if they want to us to keep paying a sub.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    You all realize they aren't going to toss out years of work because you all are screaming on the forums, right?
    Nobody asks them to toss out years of work, but at least fixing outright bad texture work and tweak some models/bones a bit wont take years to do.

    Everything else looks gorgeous, locations looks amazing, but there are problems with character models. There are troubles if only like 2-3 races looks ok, and everyone else got butchered.

    There is a difference between "my character looks different in new graphics" and "my character doesn't look himself". Like some charas look 10 years older/younger overall.

    I was expecting that I maybe will switch from au ra to miqo'te after I saw their screens at streams, but my miqo looks weird too. It's not really fun to skim through all my charas to find one that looks actually ok, like legitimately like the one I would play.
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  6. #56
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    OP, Regardless of where you stand on many other topics.

    It's so cut and dry, that Clive couldn't call on Odin at all anymore.

    If a person goes alil overboard that's there issue. but they are just a drop in the lake of players.

    Everyone everywhere expressed happiness over the Grass, Flowers, Anti-Aliasing Concepts.

    And with the time given to them, express their feedback of the graphics update shown by the Benchmark.
    it's not like people are trying to Erase their own races specialty. (except maybe the few suncats who realized now, that the majority don't care/want the fangs to become Race wide. And enjoy the specialty and differences between the two. only their office meeting room does.)

    While those players may try to sneak in their wants. The things everyone in near totality is saying, that the few things that are core and not at all, unable to be done. Can/Should be fixed. Whenever that is, they are being heard almost unanimously.

    Just like it was for Au Ra Scales/Eyes (which I was part of, for the Eyes.)

    Don't let the Bad faith, or those who have trouble expressing their wants level-headedly dictate if we can even give feedback that the Devs wanted. IN THE FIRST PLACE.
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  7. #57
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    strange thread and for an mmorpg/live-service game of all games. Dawntrail could come out tomorrow and this thread would still be strange. you know they still work on the game after the release right?
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    OP, Regardless of where you stand on many other topics.

    It's so cut and dry, that Clive couldn't call on Odin at all anymore.

    If a person goes alil overboard that's there issue. but they are just a drop in the lake of players.

    Everyone everywhere expressed happiness over the Grass, Flowers, Anti-Aliasing Concepts.

    And with the time given to them, express their feedback of the graphics update shown by the Benchmark.
    it's not like people are trying to Erase their own races specialty. (except maybe the few suncats who realized now, that the majority don't care/want the fangs to become Race wide. And enjoy the specialty and differences between the two. only their office meeting room does.)

    While those players may try to sneak in their wants. The things everyone in near totality is saying, that the few things that are core and not at all, unable to be done. Can/Should be fixed. Whenever that is, they are being heard almost unanimously.

    Just like it was for Au Ra Scales/Eyes (which I was part of, for the Eyes.)

    Don't let the Bad faith, or those who have trouble expressing their wants level-headedly dictate if we can even give feedback that the Devs wanted. IN THE FIRST PLACE.
    Look at my post above the devs basically gave a answer to benchmark feed back before the feed back was given.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Look at my post above the devs basically gave a answer to benchmark feed back before the feed back was given.
    Not looking at the post, cause I already know.
    And I'm just partaking to put another nail in the coffin for good measure.

    Continual Pushing of Check post, no need to reply.
    Just asks players to add more nails to the coffin.
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    Also, it seems like its only the official forums everyone is screaming with torches and pitch forks - Twitter, Reddit everyone else is responding with people much more positive and happy, so don't think the forums are the majority and everyone hates it. And attacking the devs and Yoshi P won't solve anything. Media tour is starting. Get on the train or get off.
    Sorry but are you actually unable to see the difference between customer feedback and what attacking the devs is? We are PAYING to play this game so obviously they are obligated to hear our opinions and criticisms on what is okay or not. The way you put it as though square enix is a small indie comp hard at work and shouldn’t be receiving negative feedback. Dawntrail may be in a few months they themselves have said they will continue to improve after the benchmark, they don’t need your sorry, pathetic self to defend them when they are simply receiving feedback.

    Go play some ea game if you want to “defend the multimillion dollar company” so bad. The quote you keep spamming speaks for you if anything.
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