DT releases in TWO MONTHS - they aren't going to overhaul the graphics update now.

[Lieri]

I think updating things that look so different from the original ones wont be that much of a task. So just a few face shapes, eyes, nose, and lips.

Freelancers can do that...

[Diplopod]

So were you not here for the EW benchmark, where they showed male viera having a *massive* slouch and everyone immediately started complaining about it? That was fixed before EW released. The feedback is important.

That being said, we're completely at the mercy of whatever the JP players complain about, because I'm sure they don't even look at the EN forums.

[Lieri]

Oh and based on my experience with other games, you should definitely voice your concerns as soon as possible. If you do it after the launch then you will be saying it during their busiest period. They'll be busy with in game updates at that time for events, new store items, etc. In fact thats why most games do their graphical overhaul before new expansion, it just makes sense timing and resource wise.

[Wyssahtyn]

[Swordsman]

Lmao, right? Getting very strong vibes of this in relation to the graphics update feedback.

[Arzalis]

I do think there's a bit of over-reaction and nitpicking, especially because they told us this was going to happen. Characters aren't going to look the same. There is ways in which the face is rendered that are going to mean, there's trade-offs to the update. People have to deal with that reality.

However, I don't think that means they shouldn't improve, or cannot improve some of the aspects in this update. Some textures are poor, there's some other issues pointed out like lips and eyes. That kind of stuff can be worked on. Maybe not in the amount of time people are hoping, but if people keep up the feedback they are going to consider what can be done.

I do think there's always going to be some degree of this, but a lot of the changes aren't "We tried to get really close to the old/existing thing while also updating it. It looks a bit different as a result." but instead someone was like "You know, I never liked that anyway. Let's just change it completely."

The first one is fine and understandable to a degree. The second one is completely contrary to what they've said they would do and going to rightfully upset some people.

[NanaWiloh]

So were you not here for the EW benchmark, where they showed male viera having a *massive* slouch and everyone immediately started complaining about it? That was fixed before EW released. The feedback is important.

That being said, we're completely at the mercy of whatever the JP players complain about, because I'm sure they don't even look at the EN forums.

SE,Blizzard,Nexon,etc. Companies that run mmos always treat their foreign consumers like middle red headed step childern. Nature of the beast..

[SalamanderIX]

Without getting into motivations, I think it's fine people are upset their characters are different and voice their concerns, it sucks that some things aren't going to be the same. I just worry those types of complaints are going to drown out the conversation about the quality, or lack thereof of the graphical update.

There's a chance the conversation becomes "xiv fans upset their graphics are being changed", when we could be having a more productive conversation about how to make these changes better, and issues with the quality. That was way might see the graphics update improve going forward. But asking them to put the genie back in the bottle isn't likely to change much.

[Lazariah]

To be fair, some changes can be made. Not huge mind you, but smaller ones. I just hope they take in the feedback (the polite feedback not the angry demanding feedback) and make what changes they can if it seems enough people want it and consider anything else for later.

[Arzalis]

Without getting into motivations, I think it's fine people are upset their characters are different and voice their concerns, it sucks that some things aren't going to be the same. I just worry those types of complaints are going to drown out the conversation about the quality, or lack thereof of the graphical update.

There's a chance the conversation becomes "xiv fans upset their graphics are being changed", when we could be having a more productive conversation about how to make these changes better, and issues with the quality. That was way might see the graphics update improve going forward. But asking them to put the genie back in the bottle isn't likely to change much.

I would argue these things are part of the quality of the graphical update. Right now, it's a very mixed bag. There are some serious technical problems too like their DLSS implementation (which is really bad btw) but it's understandable the characters are the things people will notice most.