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  1. #11
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilymew View Post
    with the duty support system I have decided to try playing through the story from the start
    If you are a DPS, you can just pull the enemies and the NPCs will fight them for you.

    You can replay it using New Game+ in chapters as well.

    I have noticed there are sometimes grouping is required
    For 8-person duties as well as non-MSQ (side) content.

    would it be better to set up a party finder stating I have a disability or just do a pug and hope the random party doesn't mind a "bad" player.
    Your options:
    1. Setup a Party Finder and ask for help.
    2. Find a nice circle of friends that will help you with it.
    3. Solo the duty with the "Unrestricted" setting by being a higher level. You can be a higher level via a level skip (not MSQ skip), or by using your existing max level character and doing the MSQ via New Game+.
    4. Queue for the 8-person duties as a role that nobody cares about, such as: a DPS, or off tank (don't turn on tank stance, let the other person tank, your high defense/HP will allow you to survive most mechanics).
    You can also create macros to help press buttons for you in sequence if it helps your disability. They aren't normally considered optimal, but they can help if you have a disability.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilymew View Post
    I have played other games where players got quite upset with me being slower than most. I have reduced vision and slow reflexes and I know in some games the communities are quite hostile to non-perfect players. Sounds like that is not the case here. Thanks so much for the information it gives me hope that I may have found a long-term gaming home.
    I can confirm nobody will care in story content. They will normally just clear it however much you die/mess up. This is different in (optional, high-end raids) done via Party Finder, but you're probably not intending to do those.

    They especially don't tend to care in the NA region. I have found people can be quite rude in the EU region sometimes, but you are playing on an NA data center and they truly don't care.
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    Last edited by Jeeqbit; 04-12-2024 at 10:49 AM.

  2. #12
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    I think that's where we're miscommunicating; I'm not talking about moves that normally wouldn't have any chance of targeting you. I'm talking about moves where if you were in a 4-player party, there'd be a chance of a move either targeting you or not targeting you. When you're in a Duty Support, those moves will always target you (again, as long as the move doesn't result in other party members needing to break the player out).

    So for example, in the fight against T at the end of Somh Al, there's a green marker that gets placed on players for the meteor mechanic. It starts out only going to 1 or 2 players at a time, until finally it's going to every non-tank later in the fight. I have never seen a Duty Support run where that mechanic doesn't include the player as one of its targets every single time...and I've seen this dungeon run a lot! Meanwhile, in an actual group of players (where you're not the tank), sometimes you won't be among the player's targeted when the meteor mechanic happens.

    My assumption is that the devs know you're the only player and they want to keep you engaged, so any mechanic that would normally have a chance of targeting you doesn't even do a dice roll and instead just chooses you as its primary target.

    Hopefully that helps clear things up! ^^
    Well I know that one is random as to who it picks cause even tho it normally is dps that get picked it can be a dps and a healer. That and sweet scent the yellow prey the 1st boss of that dungeon should always hit you the player if what you say is true yet I've had runs where the npcs are the only ones who get hit by it. Heck I even went to test this and on my 4th run of it today I had comet pairing of npc and me, npc x2, and then all three.

    Edit: heh yeah sometimes the game is like that. Just look at the card mechanic of the 2nd fight of the 2nd leg of the current Alliance Raid. Many would only get one of the card combos all the time until the one time where they get the other and are just dumb struck.
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    Last edited by SannaR; 04-12-2024 at 11:10 AM.

  3. #13
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    i am partially paralysed from my left hand, cant feel half of my fingers basically and moving them right is hard sometimes, this matters because i play on ps5; this happened after i begun to play ffxiv so i have so old muscle memory and hand/eye coordination thing to help me, but hotbar changes dont come easy + my "the" is PLD, which got it's rework done. i got hang of it by some grit, but of course that didn't come easy either. i stealth use some macros. that's my real dirty secret.

    disability dont a bad gamer make. just try df, mostly people just want to get stuff done but most are not s#itstains about it. they are more likely be understanding and even helpful.
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  4. #14
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    Lilyin Snow
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    Thanks for the encouragement. I will look into macros to see if they help. I know I am hard on myself as I gamed hardcore before my injury and have a bad habit of comparing then to now. I will see if I can find a linkshell where I can start making some friends. I am on PC and use a side button mouse that helps a lot. As for class Ive almost always played ranged dps so I've started over with a bard.
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    I am not dead I just like taking catnaps.

  5. #15
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilymew View Post
    Thanks for the encouragement. I will look into macros to see if they help. I know I am hard on myself as I gamed hardcore before my injury and have a bad habit of comparing then to now. I will see if I can find a linkshell where I can start making some friends. I am on PC and use a side button mouse that helps a lot. As for class Ive almost always played ranged dps so I've started over with a bard.
    If you have sprout status, you can get a mentor (person with a crown icon) to invite you to the Novice Network. It is a chat for veteran players (mentors) to help new players (sprouts) and returners (flowers). In many cases, if you ask them to help you with a duty, they will either queue for it with you or they will help you unsync it. Not always, but often they will at least unsync (where they kill it super fast for you in level 90 gear).
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    From some experimenting I've been doing with the duty support, you can generally go through levels without having to fight at all if that's difficult for you, so long as you pay attention and move out of danger zones.

    One notable exception though is that your choice of companions for the level 73 dungeon Dohn Mheg will affect whether the NPCs can clear the fight or not.

    There's a point in the boss battle where you have to cross a narrow winding "tightrope" to reach the boss and attack them, and if this is something you would struggle with, you'll be reliant on the NPCs to complete this part for you. Each character is scripted to handle this differently, and Alphinaud and [new girl in Shadowbringers] will both fail to cross in time, so if you take them both in your party then the third NPC will not be able to do enough damage to clear that stage of the fight. You can take one or the other of them with you, but not both.
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    Brian Darkalter
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    Kraken
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    I’d recommend PF or a good FC that is willing to help you get thru content. Me personally if someone in a dungeon I’m running has an issue, whatever it is, that will cause them to not play to what they think the standard is I’d prefer to know at the start so I can look out for the where I need to do extra and be able to manage my CDs appropriately
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    Lilimo Limomo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilymew View Post
    Thanks for the encouragement. I will look into macros to see if they help.
    I've used macros for years and in my experience it can be difficult to find information about how macros work; the game never explains them so players have had to figure it out themselves, and there's just enough misinformation out there from well-meaning players that I'd recommend taking everything you read with a grain of salt. I've had to do a ton of my own experiments to figure out some of the nuances of what they can and can't do.

    All of which I say to explain why I'm hoping this post I made awhile back might give you a leg up in the process of figuring them out. It's initial goal was to provide evidence that disproved a common misconception about macros, but in trying to make the post thorough and accessible it also became a bit of an explainer on the fundamentals of macros. So if it helps, great! There are also some examples of macros throughout the thread that I made upon request for other players, and at-present there are some examples of bard macros on the very last page.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-or-Lost-Casts

    If you ever need help with macros, please let me know! It would be my absolute pleasure to do whatever I can to help you play the game happily and comfortably! ^^
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