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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferNacht View Post
    I will always believe, if you NEED the email to remind you to step into your house, I don't care if you lose it.
    Personally I put no weight or credence in that argument as since 2014 or whatever it was when the halls started I've entered my houses daily, however, this is something that you have understand people's lives for. What about if your town is currently flooded out, your house is under water, (as a few towns here are at the moment) and you have a few other things on your mind? You might not accept stuff happens, but I do, and I see a critical part of this process is better notification.

    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferNacht View Post
    Also, it's important to understand how technology works, ISPs (your internet service provider) use a variety of tools to process and filter incoming email. The spam-blocking measures they use can also result in blocking mail from legit sources so that's why personal accountability is key.
    Except - as a unix sysadmin I am quite capable of the trivial task of running my own mail server with 5 nines availability. My ISP's don't get involved with my email outside of carrying the packets to my personal servers, in fact the mail daemon's logs show all attempts of connection - pass or fail - and it's very easily greppable, as proof or not of them attempting to connect. Like most of us, I also have no problem getting the emails warning of upcoming payment, every month for 11 years :- the warning my account and extra retainers - 2 email there from SE every month. As well as all the advertising, no problem.

    There is no record in my postfix logs of SE attempting to connect to me outside those items. It's trivially checkable, and accurate. SE have not sent the demo warning, it's not spam trapped.
    So no, I don't buy this explanation for laypeople, sorry. It wasn't spam-trapped, and I am not blacklisted with spamhaus or others. Nobody does reputation scoring but my own configuration, and I have all low-reputation emails still go into a bucket for manual checking. So, in my professional opinion, there is no possible technical excuse for the email not being recieved.

    Occam's razor, and a zgrep of my logs, suggests it was never sent by SE.

    Quote Originally Posted by EorzeaWanderer View Post
    I don’t have any evidence either way, but proving that something works once, or even the vast majority of the time, is not sufficient to prove that a bug does not exist in some cases.
    That's fair enough!

    As I have the capability to explode an personal medium shiro without care, I am planning to keep testing it. If you have ideas on what might trigger an edge case bug, give me ideas to test please. No matter how outlandish will take a few weeks each time to do the cycle, but I have this thread now. All suggestions welcomed.

    One thing I would like, is the warning about the house being in demo to be a big log in warning every login until it's safe again. Fanfare with the gold letters is optional.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 04-11-2024 at 05:33 PM.
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