Housing sucks

[Carin-Eri]

Not here to really write a wall of text, just a friendly reminder that the way you get a house in this game sucks eggs.

And, in my opinion, the old method was even worse.

I'm fortunate enough to have a small house, and very fond of it - but I would never have obtained it via the old method. I wouldn't have had either the time or the motivation to plant myself next to a placard and click on it almost endlessly on the preposterously slim chance of winning the plot.

[MAJRIS]

Just move to aussie server on the opposite side of planet with with 750 ping bro!
Just get one of these thousands free locked houses bro!
Just keep trying until you get completely burned out and leave forever, bro!
Just apartment is enough to enjoy housing, your greed is hurting the economy!


Any other argument I'm missing?

[LuciferNacht]

1. Should be possible, not only with existing apartments but housing as well.

2. I *believe* there was already a mention about this kind of idea at a Fanfest, where they were toying around with making the insides bigger, i.e., a small house interior could be upgraded to a medium size (or something along those lines - I'm trying to go through Fanfests and look for it).

3. This is already planned after Dawntrail release, increasing glamours and inventory for housing. I don't remember how clear it was to drop more items on floors, but at least inventory is going up.

4. I think this might be an option (#2) but would be nice to have this implemented for all apartments, and be an option to players.

The housing mirage system notes is from the October Patch note reading, it's a comment Yoshi made that is translated differently between the FFXIV reddit discord and native Japanese speakers.

So until SE makes an announcement, it doesn't make sense for people to be thinking "yay smalls are all of a sudden going to be larges on the inside, every plot will get 400 interior slots and 400 storage slots".

Other native JP speakers have translated as the interior layouts will have more settings to choose from, for example a no pillar option, no center staircase in a large or side staircase in a medium, a blank space where you can create your own floors, smalls having a top second floor rather than a basement or one really tall floor.

Not to mention void builds which SE has reset once before and don't want people to build out there, so why not allow void builders the space to do what they are doing but inside the bounds SE needs for server stability.

The glamour system simply changes the look of what is being represented. I personally don't see how more storage space (aka more slots, smalls all getting 800 slots instead of 400) would tie into that when they struggle as is for server space.

It's not for me to kill anyone's hopium though, believe whatever you want as long as people don't spread misinformation and then harass the devs later when the misinterpretation is wrong.
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Quote from FFXIV Reddit Discord, you can find this post on 10/02/2023 at 9:52 PM from Iluna Minori

・パッチ7.x中を予定しているが柱がない家の内装をまるごと別のもの変える、全く別の広さを持った内装に変えるみたいな仕様を進めている
→ミラージュ的な設定？
Patch 7.x will see housing interior capable of setup without pillars, and a specification that changes how you change your house interior to something completely different from what we have right now (and also completely different in terms of spaciousness)
-> Something like a housing version of glamour settings?
・パッチ7.0でも新アクションが追加されローテーションも変わるジョブも多いと思う

Happy Housing

[LianaThorne]

i have a small house they arnt all that great only the large houses are really worth it but theres so few so goodluck affording one or finding one for sale

This is false even at a non-subjective stand point. You don't get enough items to properly fill a large so you either have to chop off the basement or have a lot of empty space.

Smalls are unironically the best for using the space to its full potential without looking like part of your floorspace is going bald.

[MeanDragon]

This is false even at a non-subjective stand point. You don't get enough items to properly fill a large so you either have to chop off the basement or have a lot of empty space.

Smalls are unironically the best for using the space to its full potential without looking like part of your floorspace is going bald.

I have a small and I still have tons of slots left its full enough. It also took me ages to figure out what to decorate it with. I can't imagine doing anything larger just for me.

An FC though would benefit better with a medium or large. Multiple people using the same space.

And to address the housing sucking issue:

The lottery is way better than standing at a placard for 20 hours constantly clicking, only for someone to swoop in and hit it at the right time. The lottery is way more fair and while it will lower your chances, I would still rather put in a bid and walk away, than clicking on it, slowly dying.

[Khryseis_Astra]

The housing mirage system notes is from the October Patch note reading, it's a comment Yoshi made that is translated differently between the FFXIV reddit discord and native Japanese speakers.

Thank you for that! Every time I tried to look it up, I kept getting the same earlier translation of “changing the interior of a house with a completely different size but does not have pillars… mirage-like setting.” Good to have an alternative translation!

Honestly it would be awesome to have any size interior inside any size exterior. As the insides are instanced anyway, it’s certainly possible. But with this translation, it almost makes me hopeful that they’re going for even more customization of interiors than we thought. Old translation makes it sound like “ok you can have a large inside and a small outside.” New translation makes it sound like something that will allow us to control the layout a lot more… the spaciousness comment would still make me hopeful that size is involved. With the removal of the pillars being present in both translations, and the second one saying glamour instead of mirage, I’m wondering if it’s more a way of hiding or even changing or moving windows and such on the inside. Or even an interior glamour system like we had for the island exterior? Who knows?

I know whatever it is, it’s planned for 7.x, along with the interior item limit increases. But I really wish they’d give the housing enthusiasts at least a short segment in the midst of the Dawntrail hype to clarify not just that statement, but also what their vision for housing is going to be moving forward.

[SweetPete]

I’ve had a medium FC plot since 2019 and when the lottery first was introduced I was able to win a large. Thankfully square gave FC’s like 20 wards in the beginning. Then it took me a little over 2 years just to finally win a large for my private home which was also a medium. I mean it was a struggle but man when you win finally it’s like you hit the lotto irl.

[LuciferNacht]

Thank you for that! Every time I tried to look it up, I kept getting the same earlier translation of “changing the interior of a house with a completely different size but does not have pillars… mirage-like setting.” Good to have an alternative translation!

Honestly it would be awesome to have any size interior inside any size exterior. As the insides are instanced anyway, it’s certainly possible. But with this translation, it almost makes me hopeful that they’re going for even more customization of interiors than we thought. Old translation makes it sound like “ok you can have a large inside and a small outside.” New translation makes it sound like something that will allow us to control the layout a lot more… the spaciousness comment would still make me hopeful that size is involved. With the removal of the pillars being present in both translations, and the second one saying glamour instead of mirage, I’m wondering if it’s more a way of hiding or even changing or moving windows and such on the inside. Or even an interior glamour system like we had for the island exterior? Who knows?

I know whatever it is, it’s planned for 7.x, along with the interior item limit increases. But I really wish they’d give the housing enthusiasts at least a short segment in the midst of the Dawntrail hype to clarify not just that statement, but also what their vision for housing is going to be moving forward.

I completely agree, it would be really cool if a small could select to have a large interior layout just for the space. Even if the slots to start are still the 200/200 (even though we're getting a slot increase per yoshi), because it would be a step in the right direction. The insides ARE instanced, just let us have it load an internal layout of our choice and then we'll use the slots we have to build.

I am really hoping for more info during the May media tour! Let's keep our fingers crossed!

[White_Wolf_X]

Until they add instance housing ( not apartment ) i will not bother with it.

[PercibelTheren]

Totally recommend you make a housing alt on OCE and get one there if you're sincere about wanting something more than an apartment. There are over 5000 available plots.

If you're just "no, I want this specific plot, on this specific server" then yeah, that totally sucks for you.

Good luck waiting for a plot to open!

You don't need to be someone struggling to find a house on your server in order to see the system is broken and insanely unfair, though.