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  1. #3211
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    Way too many mitigation tools everywhere those days. The only place where I felt everything had to be kitchen sunk just in order to survive was harrowing hell without tank LB3...

    In the meantime all those mitigation tools render rphys party wides less and less prevalent, putting the role even more in the grave than it already is.
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  2. #3212
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Way too many mitigation tools everywhere those days. The only place where I felt everything had to be kitchen sunk just in order to survive was harrowing hell without tank LB3...

    In the meantime all those mitigation tools render rphys party wides less and less prevalent, putting the role even more in the grave than it already is.
    There is too much mitigation in general but mitigation is far more a shield healer thing than it is a phys ranged thing
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  3. #3213
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    Malto Thoris
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    It also runs with the problem that since both the barrier healers have so much mitigation, they are the better comp.
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  4. #3214
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    Square just needs to get over its PTSD of kefka and bring back white hole as a mechanic type

    It’s literally the only mechanic type that regen healers are objectively superior at if they refuse to nerf the pure healing of the shield healers
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  5. #3215
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    There is too much mitigation in general but mitigation is far more a shield healer thing than it is a phys ranged thing
    It's funny how the winds have turned isn't it?

    But no, I'm talking about support in general. Just compare the amount of crap they have with how much they had before.
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  6. #3216
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Square just needs to get over its PTSD of kefka and bring back white hole as a mechanic type

    It’s literally the only mechanic type that regen healers are objectively superior at if they refuse to nerf the pure healing of the shield healers

    THey really do seem to have an aversion to fights that were an extreme challenge to the community. Hardly anything like A3s, A4s, A8s or Kefka.
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  7. #3217
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    Kefka was a challenge?

    (I did love the fight though)
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  8. #3218
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    All I was thinking when the tooltip for Expedient came out was "Wow SCH can do -anything-! That's one mit that will stick on the player when they need to leave Soil!".

    Didn't actually expect the button to be -this- powerful... oh and of course they had to widen Soil's radius by 6.3 lmao which frankly upsetting. Aside from thinking less where to drop it, it's also HUGE. Those VFX aren't designed to be that wide & can be obstructive at times.
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  9. #3219
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    All I was thinking when the tooltip for Expedient came out was "Wow SCH can do -anything-! That's one mit that will stick on the player when they need to leave Soil!".

    Didn't actually expect the button to be -this- powerful... oh and of course they had to widen Soil's radius by 6.3 lmao which frankly upsetting. Aside from thinking less where to drop it, it's also HUGE. Those VFX aren't designed to be that wide & can be obstructive at times.
    The radius became huge because spazmatic DPS refused to step 5 steps toward the center of the arena and hung out in Narnia.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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  10. #3220
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Kefka was a challenge?

    (I did love the fight though)
    I don't think Kefka was that much of a challenge. The most I've seen was WHM players struggling with aggro on the Heartless Angel at the start.

    It's a fun fight, but it's not that challenging if people do the mechanics in the right order.
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