[Feedback] Wuk Lamat's English Voice

[ZiraZ]

So, did you just link the tweet because other did?

Did you not actually read it?

Saying she thinks they should have hired a Trans person to play the character is not calling for someone to be fired.

You know what stepping down means don't play dumb now.

[Souljacker]

You know what stepping down means don't play dumb now.

We do. It seems you do not.

I will explain. Stepping down means to voluntarily cede the position to someone perhaps better equipped to capture the authenticity of the character.

And it's just like, her opinion, man. It's not a personal insult to you specifically.

[ZiraZ]

We do. It seems you do not.

I will explain. Stepping down means to voluntarily cede the position to someone perhaps better equipped to capture the authenticity of the character.

And it's just like, her opinion, man. It's not a personal insult to you specifically.

Ok so I choose to utilize your mental gymnastics and ask the VA to step down so someone perhaps better equipped can capture the authenticity of the character.

[Mosha]

And it's just like, her opinion, man. It's not a personal insult to you specifically.

And people can have an opinion on her opinion and you can have a opinion on that opinion.
That's how discourse works bloody beautiful, isn't it?

[Souljacker]

Ok so I choose to utilize your mental gymnastics and ask the VA to step down so someone perhaps better equipped can capture the authenticity of the character.

Ok? I'm not sure if this is supposed o be some kind of gotcha.

At least you are admitting it has nothing to do with her talent as a VA.

[Mosha]

At least you are admitting it has nothing to do with her talent as a VA.

"so someone perhaps better equipped can capture the authenticity of the character."

[Souljacker]

"so someone perhaps better equipped can capture the authenticity of the character."

I'm pretty sure we got the message, friend. You don't like that a trans actress with an opinion has the job.

But I'll tell you what, at least Sena had the stones to say outright what she meant and she didn't hide behind euphemisms or bs 'criticisms' of the performance. Nor did she take down that post though I'm sure it's gotten back to her by now that it's getting copy pasta'd all over the forums, even if she didn't see it here herself directly (she does play this game, as I understand).

She owned her opinion and flat out said she doesn't think that trans character should be portrayed by a cis woman. Whether you agree or not, there's some merit to that claim, just as there's merit to white people not putting on black face to portray people of color, straight men not writing lesbian characters, cis men not playing trans women, and cis women not voicing trans men. There's life experiences there that just cannot always be understood by folks outside those spaces, and though the representation is better than nothing, we're still striving to do better. As we should.

All that aside and addressing the 'authenticity' argument directly, we just don't know enough about Wuk Lamat to determine whether a trans actress can portray her authentically or not. And that's because, well, we don't know her story yet. She may very well be trans.

I don't predict SE would be so bold, because having a main character be trans in an expac would likely send a certain demographic into a veritable tailspin the likes of which hasn't been seen since Anders circa 2011, but she *might* be. In which case that authenticity argument flies right out the window, doesn't it? We'll have to wait and see if SE ever clearly states anything specific about this characters gender.

Until then, I'm just not gonna sweat it. There so many big problems in this game, Wuk Lamat's english voice actress ain't one of them.

[Mosha]

I'm pretty sure we got the message, friend. You don't like that a trans actress with an opinion has the job.

But I'll tell you what, at least Sena had the stones to say outright what she meant and she didn't hide behind euphemisms or bs 'criticisms' of the performance. Nor did she take down that post though I'm sure it's gotten back to her by now that it's getting copy pasta'd all over the forums, even if she didn't see it here herself directly (she does play this game, as I understand).

She owned her opinion and flat out said she doesn't think that trans character should be portrayed by a cis woman. Whether you agree or not, there's some merit to that claim, just as there's merit to white people not putting on black face to portray people of color, straight men not writing lesbian characters, cis men not playing trans women, and cis women not voicing trans men. There's life experiences there that just cannot always be understood by folks outside those spaces, and though the representation is better than nothing, we're still striving to do better. As we should.

All that aside and addressing the 'authenticity' argument directly, we just don't know enough about Wuk Lamat to determine whether a trans actress can portray her authentically or not. And that's because, well, we don't know her story yet. She may very well be trans.

I don't predict SE would be so bold, because having a main character be trans in an expac would likely send a certain demographic into a veritable tailspin the likes of which hasn't been seen since Anders circa 2011, but she *might* be. In which case that authenticity argument flies right out the window, doesn't it? We'll have to wait and see if SE ever clearly states anything specific about this characters gender.

Until then, I'm just not gonna sweat it. There so many big problems in this game, Wuk Lamat's english voice actress ain't one of them.

Don't know why you are going off on me about Sena, I gave my thoughts about her like 20 or 30 pages back and that's that. I've commented far more on the stuff regarding SBI and some of the silly things people have said. (changing from a "you to "people" because it isn't just them and is a bit harsh to single them out)

[DiaDeem]

[Burmecia]

"Trans actors should be accepted playing trans and cis roles!"
"Great!"
"Cis actors should not play trans roles!"

And then part of the audience is like "Yes, exactly!!", while the other part is like "Wait, what, isn't that double standard?"
That's the polemic about Bryer's tweet about Ohanian voicing Bridget. She has more of these kind of xeets, which just makes me wonder why is she so negative about Ohanian's casting?
Is that really a good look to be known among other actors and even directors, maybe, about your opinion like that? What about the fans?
At least I find it hard to just ignore attitude like that, even if it is hopelessly minor thing.
I think trans actors should absolutely be accepted to every kind of role they're being called to voice. Voice acting is neat like that, because it absolutely can transcend shallow qualities like that, like sex or age or race.
...Tina Belcher, Edna Mode, Bart Simpson - almost literally every other shounen anime protagonist; Naruto, Luffy, Edward Elric, mot#her ducking Goku.

One last time, I just fail miserably to see any fair reasoning on Bryer's part for her strange and strangely public opinions broadcasting, in situation where lukewarm "gz for role, fellow actor" would look wacktillion times more professional, and respectable.

I'm pretty sure we got the message, friend. You don't like that a trans actress with an opinion has the job.

Her opinion is no one's main criticism. People can hold two thoughts at once. "Hmm, Wuk Lamat's voice seems a little disappointing." "Hmm, I disagree with this person's opinion which she is posting on her public, work related things holding twitter."
Bryer is new voicetalent to cast of FFXIV, people become curious of her, her other roles - oh look, let's check her social media. And then you find xeet like that, and if you hadn't fallen in love with her to the point you are ready to ignore anything from her, small things like that add to your impression of her, the actor.
And then you know her as voice talent who did disappointing work on new character in your MMO, and who had some less than benign opinions about other actor getting some role.