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    The FFXVI crossover event and Clive's model have shown that beards are possible. We need way more beard options for all the face types of males of all races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aco505 View Post
    The FFXVI crossover event and Clive's model have shown that beards are possible. We need way more beard options for all the face types of males of all races.
    Beards are always possible. Clive does have it because it is an unique NPC model.

    The problem, at least to what it seems on surface, is that current character models are limited in the number of 'customization slots' that aren't hairstyles or face paints. Why I say that? We got the stubble people asked for so long in one race.

    Yet, when you go through it, you realize that in order to do that, they had to duplicate one of the midlander male faces and have the stubble permanent. Why they would do all that if the most logical way would be just to add the stubble as an option? Because all of the customization slots for face features are full. Imagine if they deleted the 1.0 tattoo for that lol.

    I'm all for more and cohese customization options for everyone, but I feel that they need first to improve the foundations of the character creation, which is not something the graphics update will do. IIRC they vaguely mentioned they'd look into this in the future. When? Who knows...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Beards are always possible. Clive does have it because it is an unique NPC model.

    The problem, at least to what it seems on surface, is that current character models are limited in the number of 'customization slots' that aren't hairstyles or face paints. Why I say that? We got the stubble people asked for so long in one race.

    Yet, when you go through it, you realize that in order to do that, they had to duplicate one of the midlander male faces and have the stubble permanent. Why they would do all that if the most logical way would be just to add the stubble as an option? Because all of the customization slots for face features are full. Imagine if they deleted the 1.0 tattoo for that lol.

    I'm all for more and cohese customization options for everyone, but I feel that they need first to improve the foundations of the character creation, which is not something the graphics update will do. IIRC they vaguely mentioned they'd look into this in the future. When? Who knows...

    This ^
    I wouldn't hold my breath on the devs updating character creator- people have asked for such changes for years (more faces/ improving character creator) and nothing has come of it.
    Hence, why I think many people have turned to outside options.
    They also said they'd look into increasing item slots for housing and making ward specific house cosmetics actually customizable but that hasn't happened either & it's been radio silence since.
    I'm sure people have asked, but xiv team probably dodge repeated questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Beards are always possible. Clive does have it because it is an unique NPC model.

    The problem, at least to what it seems on surface, is that current character models are limited in the number of 'customization slots' that aren't hairstyles or face paints. Why I say that? We got the stubble people asked for so long in one race.

    Yet, when you go through it, you realize that in order to do that, they had to duplicate one of the midlander male faces and have the stubble permanent. Why they would do all that if the most logical way would be just to add the stubble as an option? Because all of the customization slots for face features are full. Imagine if they deleted the 1.0 tattoo for that lol.

    I'm all for more and cohese customization options for everyone, but I feel that they need first to improve the foundations of the character creation, which is not something the graphics update will do. IIRC they vaguely mentioned they'd look into this in the future. When? Who knows...
    With all that said, I wonder how/why Midlanders can have 7 face options and everyone else is stuck with only 4. Unless it greatly stresses the servers or coding, I'm sure a lot of people would like whole new face models to be added.

    PS: I haven't seen anything about it, but I'm praying to the Twelve the graphic update gives Highlanders eyebrows at last...or at least make the face paint not look so smeared so we can pretend they're eyebrows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    PS: I haven't seen anything about it, but I'm praying to the Twelve the graphic update gives Highlanders eyebrows at last...or at least make the face paint not look so smeared so we can pretend they're eyebrows.
    If SE hasn't mentioned it, it's likely not in the works
    It'd have to be something that gets alot of support; I've only seen such things pop up on occasion - while it's an obvious want by many players
    Why should Cid have a full beard AND eyebrows??
    I hate Cid with a full passion.

    I also hope facepaints are cleaned up, we haven't seen anything about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    This ^
    They also said they'd look into increasing item slots for housing and making ward specific house cosmetics actually customizable but that hasn't happened either & it's been radio silence since.
    I'm sure people have asked, but xiv team probably dodge repeated questions.
    I believe the latest update on this they were working on these things for 7.X.



    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    With all that said, I wonder how/why Midlanders can have 7 face options and everyone else is stuck with only 4. Unless it greatly stresses the servers or coding, I'm sure a lot of people would like whole new face models to be added.
    I obviously can't speak for the developers on this but I think it might have to do with the fact that midlanders don't have any of the extra features that other races have that would take up the limited data space allocated for them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destati View Post
    I believe the latest update on this they were working on these things for 7.X.

    They did, but I'm not going to hold my breath - if it happens, it happens
    I'll be a believer if they give us Hilda's hair and the remaining mogstation hairstyles for Viera >: )
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    i want hairstyles that don't involve anything that resembles jon bon jovi hair from the early 2000s
    would love some thick braided hairstyles. french braids, dutch braids, box braids, fishtail braid, crochet, fulani, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juicybug View Post
    i want hairstyles that don't involve anything that resembles jon bon jovi hair from the early 2000s
    would love some thick braided hairstyles. french braids, dutch braids, box braids, fishtail braid, crochet, fulani, etc.
    And to not have a giant forehead
    I'd rather hairstyles fit closer to how the racial hairs for Viera fit, it looks more natural and closer to the brow- instead of leaving a huge landing strip of a forehead

    But I'd love pretty long braids, ones without the 1 hero bang
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    With all that said, I wonder how/why Midlanders can have 7 face options and everyone else is stuck with only 4. Unless it greatly stresses the servers or coding, I'm sure a lot of people would like whole new face models to be added.

    PS: I haven't seen anything about it, but I'm praying to the Twelve the graphic update gives Highlanders eyebrows at last...or at least make the face paint not look so smeared so we can pretend they're eyebrows.
    The number of midlander (more numerous) options seems something set when they made the game, probably thinking of midlander as the 'most popular' for some reason.

    I'm not sure why we couldn't get more face 'kits' through the years, though. I don't really count the Midlander male 7 face because it was really a half-assed way of implementing a stubble on the face model they use for the WoL, because they could just made a brand new face for that, if that was the case.

    As for eyebrows. I think that can be in the realm of possibilities, since face paints are textures. Hopefully indeed it gets contemplated without an 'airbrush' feel.
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