[Feedback] Wuk Lamat's English Voice

[Mimilu]

It's really easier to look at things little more objectively when your starting point is not:
Thing A/Side A = Aligns with views which are comfortable to me, so safe and good.
Thing B/Side B = BAD!!
There is, and always was, as much horrible sludge on both sides of gate.

And what's so good about the Gamegaters from 4chan? (ಠ_ರೃ) ~?

[Mosha]

And what's so good about the Gamegaters from 4chan? (ಠ_ರೃ) ~?

4chan has done plenty of good things in its time but people just reduce it to only /b/ and /pol/.

I specified Gamegaters from 4chan, i.e. those who participated in Gamergate. (　`_ゝ´)

Well, back in the day they had fundraisers and raised money for charity.

(Post limit, haha)

[Mimilu]

4chan has done plenty of good things in its time but people just reduce it to only /b/ and /pol/.

I specified Gamegaters from 4chan, i.e. those who participated in Gamergate. (　`_ゝ´)

[Burmecia]

And what's so good about the Gamegaters from 4chan? (ಠ_ರೃ) ~?

What's so good about the Gamegaters from literally anywhere?
Am not being "relativist" just to be tricky, I absolutely think people on both sides of the gate took it too far, on an occasion first and then later way too often but that was not the whole conversation before it became just meaningless. I stopped following the og GG happenings when I begun to feel like that, because I felt like my energy and time weren't quite that cheap.
But to dismiss the whole conversation as bullying and trolling was more popular stance on one side. Not to mention the internet staple of willful and voluntary misunderstanding of opposite arguments, that on all sides all the time. That later little thing sure is strong in this thread too, at least it sure seems to me to be impossibility to dislike actor's performance without someone slapping phobe label on you; label which means less and less to me personally, because at this point it is no different than being called "fartface" or something equally empty.

[GTK0HLK]

The hell did the thread disliking a Voice Actors First appearance in XIV not being good enough for a few. To the point they don't want to even give them the time to slot into the story.
(Hell, it wasn't even Large Story Content Patch. It was literally the Melted water off a iceberg at night.)

Convert to back and forth, about a Clear Cut and dry topic about SBI, SBIDetected, and the obvious BS spread about folks that never cared for GamIndustry.

Veiled agendas need to gtfo, and this thread should of closed along time ago.
Till then, ima see how many people are willing to throw Quality down the drain, just for pushing agendas and laugh by how they side with those who Harrassed a Minority man from South America.

Edit:
Just catched up..,

While Lilith sure expanded the thread, I see the merit and good intent they had.

respects to those users who like Our PC's attempt to bridge the divide, to listen, to understand ally and foe.
Actually learned something and is open to discussion.

But everyone else.
You need to learn to accept your mistakes GRACEFULLY.

Your intents may be good, but the ego is holding on a path of continuing fruitless/low Poly debates.(Which is being nice, for no reason, to paint it that way on my part)

Just like the Game itself tries to teach you, It doesn't matter the differences.
Just matters who you are within.
Don't continue worthless conversation and move on.

The correct person for their best role.
While Wuk Lamat is still not seeing in their complete form yet. (Look at how some saw Emet at first, or Elidibus until .3 patch) She could still sink in to her role while in English.

But as for some folks misguided, disingenuous, and unwilling to accept their mistakes.
You are siding with the blank slate that the empire was eventually building.

Take things, step by step. That way even the wolves hiding amongst the sheep won't tarnish your "good hearts" just like the Light Warriors Elidibus had summoned.

[Greystone]

Crazy seeing how many people prefer the JP voice acting for Wuk over the English version. JP's sounds very childlike to me. Wuk's English voice fit very well IMO. She's a bit awkward and not so self sure but tries to portray a sense of strong confidence to impress these important people from a foreign land. The JP version felt more appropriate to a smaller, more dainty character.

[Nestama]

It's a stupid saying. Just lets people tarnish a whole group by using a few bad actors. (adding this on to save on posts.)

Uh-huh, I see... so you would agree one person doing something foolish (perhaps causing a Streisand effect of some kind, for example) should not tarnish a group as a whole? Am I getting this correct?

[Mosha]

Uh-huh, I see... so you would agree one person doing something foolish (perhaps causing a Streisand effect of some kind, for example) should not tarnish a group as a whole? Am I getting this correct?

100% but faceless individuals on the internet who are part of a movement is very different to staff who works for your organisation. (expanding) It also depends on how big the org is and what they've done there is a lot of nuance to it. I still think it's a stupid quote because most often it's used by people who want to be reductionist.

[WantlessYoYo]

Crazy seeing how many people prefer the JP voice acting for Wuk over the English version. JP's sounds very childlike to me. Wuk's English voice fit very well IMO. She's a bit awkward and not so self sure but tries to portray a sense of strong confidence to impress these important people from a foreign land. The JP version felt more appropriate to a smaller, more dainty character.

That is true
The reason i like JP more(tho i may be highly biased because i played the mission on JP then re watched the scenes on english) is simply because she just feels more expressive, doesn't go far from your typical anime character energetic character type but it does the work

English on the other hand i feel it like, midway there in terms of expressions to me, but seeing a bit of story in terms of VA career, JP already got some history while Sena has had but a few(and even then pages don't fully show all of em because i think she said she already did another character for Sandland), so i just expect it gets better in DT

But if i have to give an early opinion is that, JP does the job and i expect English to see if it improves in the future, but by the time being, just that

[nukemind]

You are siding with the blank slate that the empire was eventually building.

I somewhat disagree. The fake accent really didn't do it for me.

Now could Wuk end up being one of the best voiced characters? ABSOLUTELY. Again not saying she's a bad VA. But listening to the Japanese version it sounded better. It's like two runners in a race- if one has to run half the distance of the other I trust that one to win.

Plus the Seiyuu did Cinder Carla in Armored Core 6 who had INCREDIBLE range. She is easily in my top three voices for that game.

And to be honest after giving the Japanese trailer a try... I really liked Alphinaud, the Viera, and everyone a lot more. It's not just Wuk.

Like they say in the country I moved to- Products should be judged solely on their quality. While that generally applies to country of origin (IE: Chinese and American and Euro cars are all sold without any tariffs or incentives) I would argue it goes the same for any product. I don't get why people are taking offense to people simply not liking a voice. Don't get me wrong there are bad actors- but plenty of people didn't like the 2.0->3.0 voices and there wasn't the same argument. A different argument, yes (basically changing voices part way was weird) but it wasn't the same "You should like it.".

Crazy seeing how many people prefer the JP voice acting for Wuk over the English version. JP's sounds very childlike to me. Wuk's English voice fit very well IMO. She's a bit awkward and not so self sure but tries to portray a sense of strong confidence to impress these important people from a foreign land. The JP version felt more appropriate to a smaller, more dainty character.

To me that worked. Especially knowing the actress from other works. She has done rough and tumble characters a couple of times and pulls it off well. If Wuk ends up dying she has done that as well (one of the few death scenes in a game that made me cry). She had a lot of range and didn't have what I perceived as a fake accent which was (also) a big plus.