Beastmaster a wasted opportunity

[DPZ2]

Today's announcements were all geared to "release date", "what's in the collector's edition box", "specs to play the expansion (both PC/Mac)" and "yeah, there's going to be something like Eureka/Bozja".

Information about job changes won't get announced until at least mid-April during that 14-hour streaming marathon. Or, perhaps, during the Media Tour a month before go-live.

[Flana]

All limited jobs are wasted opportunity. There is nothing about Blue Mage, Beastmaster, or Puppet Master that requires the limit job archetype, nor the absurd restrictions that being a limited job comes with. Would it be more difficult to satiate that playstyle in XIV's current form? Sure. Is it impossible? Absolutely not, and we lost an interesting job to be relegated to a biyearly joke of a patch filler.

[RyanCousland]

All limited jobs are wasted opportunity. There is nothing about Blue Mage, Beastmaster, or Puppet Master that requires the limit job archetype, nor the absurd restrictions that being a limited job comes with. Would it be more difficult to satiate that playstyle in XIV's current form? Sure. Is it impossible? Absolutely not, and we lost an interesting job to be relegated to a biyearly joke of a patch filler.

to be fair i think they make them limited because of how powerful they are/can be, also would be a bit conflicting to have blu mage using the same primal powers that SMN can/should use but if they were to repurpose the theme/concept of these classes then i can see them being more feasible for all content such beastmaster = ranger or keep the name and make it a tank or dps, Blu = illusionist? shaman? or something of its nature

[rawker]

to be fair i think they make them limited because of how powerful they are/can be, also would be a bit conflicting to have blu mage using the same primal powers that SMN can/should use but if they were to repurpose the theme/concept of these classes then i can see them being more feasible for all content such beastmaster = ranger or keep the name and make it a tank or dps, Blu = illusionist? shaman? or something of its nature

BRDs have their own gimmick. Why can't BST have their own, on top of being a main job? Taming/breeding beasts could have been a sideline while they themselves have a loyal companion that will fight alongside them, at all time.

Just to share the post I made from reddit proposing BST as a tank job.
link to post

[RyanCousland]

BRDs have their own gimmick. Why can't BST have their own, on top of being a main job? Taming/breeding beasts could have been a sideline while they themselves have a loyal companion that will fight alongside them, at all time.

Just to share the post I made from reddit proposing BST as a tank job.
link to post

i would say its the difference in the ability of the gimmick, BRD performance doesnt really have any world/battle application like using the power of a diety or monster, im not saying im against the idea in fact i like your suggestion however i can only imagine that if limited jobs were to become main jobs but with a side benefit then it might create an expectation for other jobs both new& current and while i think that would be cool, the devs/company however dont seem to want to invest in fully broadening any of the classes identity/originality anymore considering they removed job quests as well as few other examples that i dont have the energy at the moment to get into.

[Reimmi]

im glad youre optimistic about it but my point was more in line of how it shouldnt have been the limited job this expansion

i dont think the problem is limited jobs so much as they are *too* limited
they should be able to reach current level cap just dont let them queue for current tier raids/criterions, it doesn't feel worth it to solo old content with these jobs when they're always weaker than my main jobs...

[RyanCousland]

i dont think the problem is limited jobs so much as they are *too* limited
they should be able to reach current level cap just dont let them queue for current tier raids/criterions, it doesn't feel worth it to solo old content with these jobs when they're always weaker than my main jobs...

i dont have any issue with the concept of a limited job, well not exactly but my point was that they made the wrong class a limited job instead of beastmaster being the limited job for this expansion it should have been pictomancer considering that they could have integrated the sight seeing aspect of the game with the job further incentivizing engagement with another feature in the game, as well as other possibilities

[rawker]

DNC mains could ask for the same but all the emotes related to dancing is more than enough or I may have been living in a cave for the past few years and didn't witness the uproar for a DNC counterpart of BRD performances. Though I understand what you meant when one job is given a shiny toy, everyone will ask for one.

I am just very passionate about pet jobs in every mmorpg I play and as much as I want to stay with FFXIV because of SMN and SCH, what they did to the entire pet system makes me sad. When BST was relatively still teased or was conceptualized years back, I became very excited and hoped that it could be a tank job.

[AnimaAnimus]

Yeah, it certainly wouldn't be a pre-existing popular NPC that features the job itself.

You mean, the "noble outlaw"...? Yeah I had mentioned that archetupe too.

[RyanCousland]

DNC mains could ask for the same but all the emotes related to dancing is more than enough or I may have been living in a cave for the past few years and didn't witness the uproar for a DNC counterpart of BRD performances. Though I understand what you meant when one job is given a shiny toy, everyone will ask for one.

I am just very passionate about pet jobs in every mmorpg I play and as much as I want to stay with FFXIV because of SMN and SCH, what they did to the entire pet system makes me sad. When BST was relatively still teased or was conceptualized years back, I became very excited and hoped that it could be a tank job.

same, was bummed when they made selene just glamour and not the offensive side of sch's kit and she's not even my favorite, and for smn well lets hope DT gives us more summons, and beastmaster wouldve been cool to have a torgal or red 13 as a summon kinda like carby but actually useful, .....bad 14 carby you shame your ancestor