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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    You can pre order the game but you don’t know whether it will run well or not. Nice.
    Well you can pre-order after if you don't know.

    I know that it will because my specs are good...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Well you can pre-order after if you don't know.

    I know that it will because my specs are good...
    I have a 4090 Jeeq. I just wanna see the damn benchmark and character creation lol. Nonetheless, the point stands that the benchmark should be out at the same time or earlier than pre-orders are available so the consumer can make an informed decision. Defending the delay helps noone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    I have a 4090 Jeeq. I just wanna see the damn benchmark and character creation lol. Nonetheless, the point stands that the benchmark should be out at the same time or earlier than pre-orders are available so the consumer can make an informed decision. Defending the delay helps noone.
    Or the wise consumer will compare specs announced at Pax East today and make an informed decision.

    The 'benchmark' is a marketing tool, not an analytics engine. It is also something that most other MMORPGs tend to skip entirely in their marketing campaigns.

    Consumers can also wait until the marketing tool is released and still pre-order the expansion. It's not like Square Enix is going to prevent you from pre-ordering in late May or early June, although the physical collector's edition will most likely sell out within days of release, like it did last time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The 'benchmark' is a marketing tool, not an analytics engine. It is also something that most other MMORPGs tend to skip entirely in their marketing campaigns.
    Is this truly the level of arguments we’re making here? Just how brainwashed does Yoshi P and SE have you? Are you some kind of bot? These are serious questions. Because this a pretty low IQ statement and I mean that as respectful as possible.

    Here is the definition of benchmark according to google, just for your reference since you seem to need it:
    a standard or point of reference against which things may be compared or assessed.

    Now, forgive me if I sound pretty confident a benchmark is an analytics tool, and forgive me for assuming if they wanted it to be a marketing tool it would be called a marketing tool. In my world, words have meaning, and they’re clearly defined. So when people make disingenuous assumptions that words mean other things they don’t actually mean, they get called out.

    What’s next? Cats are dogs? The moon is the sun?

    Maybe SE needs to pay you a bit more or hire better people to defend them because this isn’t cutting it.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 03-24-2024 at 03:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Here is the definition of benchmark according to google, just for your reference since you seem to need it:
    a standard or point of reference against which things may be compared or assessed.

    Now, forgive me if I sound pretty confident a benchmark is an analytics tool, and forgive me for assuming if they wanted it to be a marketing tool it would be called a marketing tool. In my world, words have meaning, and they’re clearly defined. So when people make disingenuous assumptions that words mean other things they don’t actually mean, they get called out.
    In my world, words are routinely misused, especially by corporations trying to sell you something. And marketing people never call marketing operations as such. You seem a touch naive.

    What do you believe the benchmarking tool's actual purpose to be? To give you an idea of how the actual game runs, by running carefully constructed cinematics whose performance profile are unlike to resemble any actual gameplay? Or maybe to help SE collect performance data (with the same caveat) so they can optimise an entire open world game a month or so before its release? Laughable.

    Maybe SE needs to pay you a bit more or hire better people to defend them because this isn’t cutting it.
    I don't think that pointing out that the benchmark tool exists for marketing reasons is "defending" SE in any way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The 'benchmark' is a marketing tool, not an analytics engine
    It might be behind the scenes or in their actual intent, but officially (and by description) a benchmark is an analytics tool to check if your machine can handle a game, and is treated like so.

    It makes sense to expect it close to the preorder date.
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