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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    That's such a completely unrealistic depiction of the current situation that it isn't even funny. People from a whole region can already go to Aether without limitations, but I certainly don't see this massive migration you speak of.

    It's always funny when I see people from Aether telling this fairy tale that everyone goes to their DC. That's simply not real.
    Yea people don’t permanently move to aether they just travel there to do most of their daily duties, an average DF run on aether will have more travellers than native aether citizens, I’m sitting in a eureka instance right now and 3/4 of the people in it aren’t from aether, our PF’s are full of people from the other data centres

    There is an enormous influx of people who regularly visit aether, just because they don’t fully world transfer doesn’t mean they aren’t still coming to aether for most things, I’m certainly not seeing crystal DF drowning in people from jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Yea people don’t permanently move to aether they just travel there to do most of their daily duties, an average DF run on aether will have more travellers than native aether citizens, I’m sitting in a eureka instance right now and 3/4 of the people in it aren’t from aether, our PF’s are full of people from the other data centres

    There is an enormous influx of people who regularly visit aether, just because they don’t fully world transfer doesn’t mean they aren’t still coming to aether for most things, I’m certainly not seeing crystal DF drowning in people from jenova
    Yeah. No.

    I don't know what's with people playing on Aether that makes them think they're special, but it's hilarious.

    Crystal is bursting at the seams, with Balmung that's incredibly crowded all the time, but we don't go complaining nearly as much as you folks do

    It's almost like having a lot of people to play with in a MMORPG is bad. What a riot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Yeah. No.

    I don't know what's with people playing on Aether that makes them think they're special, but it's hilarious.

    Crystal is bursting at the seams, with Balmung that's incredibly crowded all the time, but we don't go complaining nearly as much as you folks do
    I’d love to know how balmung being busy disproves my statement but you seem to be totally wrapped up in your own head so I’ll just leave it there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I’d love to know how balmung being busy disproves my statement but you seem to be totally wrapped up in your own head so I’ll just leave it there
    Quite obviously, Aether isn't this be all, end all of tourist destinations where everyone goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    There is an enormous influx of people who regularly visit aether, just because they don’t fully world transfer doesn’t mean they aren’t still coming to aether for most things, I’m certainly not seeing crystal DF drowning in people from jenova
    I think you are somewhat overestimating how this would scale to Cross-Region DC travel. The problem with regional DC travel is that all those DCs are in the same location, so you will not see a change in latency travelling from one to another. The "only" tradeoffs you have are inventory/retainers, FC features, linkshells, etc.. Sadly, enough people think those are outweighed by a larger player pool and in case of Dynamis shorter queue times. All this adds up to the complaints of those who wish for a Cross-DC PF.

    Meanwhile, the difference in ping when transferring between regions is quite significant. And considering how awful XIV is at mitigating latency (in fact making latency worse by the inane way in which it handles animation lock), that'll be a barrier that will keep quite a few people away. Some jobs become borderline unplayable at high latency, and at 200+ ms even snapshots start feeling unreliable. Which is why I believe the problem won't get worse with Cross-Region DC travel when compared to regional DC travel, though sadly I can not prove it.
    Pandora's box is already open. Might as well let hope out of it as well, by at least giving those who want to visit and play with friends in other regions the chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Yea people don’t permanently move to aether they just travel there to do most of their daily duties, an average DF run on aether will have more travellers than native aether citizens, I’m sitting in a eureka instance right now and 3/4 of the people in it aren’t from aether, our PF’s are full of people from the other data centres

    There is an enormous influx of people who regularly visit aether, just because they don’t fully world transfer doesn’t mean they aren’t still coming to aether for most things, I’m certainly not seeing crystal DF drowning in people from jenova
    There's an enormous number of NA players who don't go to Aether as well.

    Aether is not the entire world, as busy as it is. Non-English speaking players have no reason to go to Aether when they can remain in their home regions, play with others that speak their language and experience better ping.

    Why would anyone from Jenova be going to Crystal for DF unless they wanted to play with friends on Crystal? Know where I take my Dynamis friends when they want to do an Alliance Raid or a level 90 MSQ trial? Crystal. Even when my friends on Crystal aren't available to help out, the 5 minute queue wait for the party/Alliance to fill doesn't bother us.

    Seems like all this "Aether is the place to go talk" has resulted in some bloated heads thinking that everyone is on Aether or wants to be on Aether when that is decidedly not the case. It might be the better place to go to find a party for Savage but that's the extent of it. Savage is not the entire game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Players from all over the world including Japan have played together on FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 without the sky falling.

    As someone who spends in Japan a quarter of the year for work, I'm fairly confident no sky would fall even in FFXIV 7.0.
    I agree that the sky wouldn't fall yet there are players that have such fears.

    Perception gets assumed to be reality and that's what the developers have to tread lightly around.

    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    Anyone not being deliberately obtuse can log into any DC that isn't "the raiding DC" of their region and see for themselves that PF is dead for everything that isn't ERP clubs. Doubly so for Dynamis which is dead entirely due to DC travel.
    I see PFs up frequently for content on Dynamis and Coeurl.

    Is the number of PFs listed as large as Aether's list? No. But the listings are there.

    Your problem is assuming that the entire game is played through PF. The majority of players are queueing directly through DF for random party matching or they're in party with friends.

    The game does not revolve around Savage and EX trials.
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