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  1. #2941
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    I remember in week 1 prog of Abyssos, I was SGE in P7S, and I could almost completely ignore the WAR taking the TB, in week 1. Throw Haima on 'em and leave 'em to it, because it + Bloodwhetting was apparently enough to just out-heal the 'exceptionally hard hitting bleed'
    That boss was so weak when it came to tankbusters that people solo'd the tank stack buster without invuln week 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao
    Quote Originally Posted by os12ispeak View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  2. #2942
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    That boss was so weak when it came to tankbusters that people solo'd the tank stack buster without invuln week 1.
    Tell it to the PLDs who folded like paper to it because the bleed wasn't affected by Sheltron's Block effect at the time
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  3. #2943
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Tell it to the PLDs who folded like paper to it because the bleed wasn't affected by Sheltron's Block effect at the time
    The one time drk Dark Mind got to shine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao
    Quote Originally Posted by os12ispeak View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  4. #2944
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Tell it to the PLDs who folded like paper to it because the bleed wasn't affected by Sheltron's Block effect at the time
    That's similar to WAR's problem with that tier, ToB dropped hard in value because it didn't actually mitigate anything. The P7S buster was just such a joke that it didn't matter much, it felt like I took more damage from Venomous Mass than from taking Condensed Aero 2 solo.
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  5. #2945
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    Noah Orih
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    Just another fringe thought I figure I’d share:

    What if instead of tankbusters being one large heavy hit you need to mitigate, which end up feeling like they don’t hit hard enough when very little mitigation trivializes the damage, if they instead inflicted infirmity for a longer period of time. So rather than the tankbuster itself being one hard hit that Varys greatly on how effectively it does this, the attack itself is never lethal, but is otherwise reducing the healing the tank receives over the next several mechanics. In that case, mitigation is more about making that easier to heal through?

    Just something the came to mind from another Star Rail encounter.
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  6. #2946
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    We used to have that pretty regularly back in the day. It worked out quite neatly and gave room for a lot of skill expression by way of timing Cures to land between the Tank buster and infirmity actually sticking.

    Not really sure why it didn't make a return once Lustrate was changed from a fixed percentage to a flat potency heal.
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  7. #2947
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    It is kinda funny how they had more interesting tank swaps per say back in the day. In t5 you had the infirmiry debuff but in t7s, you had the main tank get curse shriek where the other tank had to voke while the other tank had to hide behind a cyclops with the other dps that got it. You also had t9s vuln would just increased the damage done to the tank that even meteor stream was a thread to them. Or the stacking debuff that was in t6s.
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  8. #2948
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    It is kinda funny how they had more interesting tank swaps per say back in the day. In t5 you had the infirmiry debuff but in t7s, you had the main tank get curse shriek where the other tank had to voke while the other tank had to hide behind a cyclops with the other dps that got it. You also had t9s vuln would just increased the damage done to the tank that even meteor stream was a thread to them. Or the stacking debuff that was in t6s.
    Didn’t 11 have a TB where if you didn’t swap the first tank would get eaten by the boss, die and give the boss a permanent damage up
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  9. #2949
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    Even the Bismark tank swap during the wind and water add phase was subtly interesting just because swapping which add was tricky both in terms of positioning and in timing. It was pretty simple, but it asked you to have some level of communication.
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

  10. #2950
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    Malto Thoris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Didn’t 11 have a TB where if you didn’t swap the first tank would get eaten by the boss, die and give the boss a permanent damage up
    Ye that was In the Headlights. If the off tank didn't voke in time, the main tank would die to the primary head tb and the boss got an attack stack. This was also a thing in Brute Justice if the tank died to the final punch.
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