/r/ffxivdiscussion: XIV is becoming too big MSQ wise?

[Absurdity]

it will become a mess though when new player start on lvl 90 without knowing anything about ff14 combat

It's a reasonable concern until you think about what the MSQ actually teaches the player or how the MSQ gameplay progresses throughout the story, what it asks of the player.

And you'll find that it's not only so completely toothless but instances of actual combat with your chosen job become less and less in general as you progress through expansions, you could do 100 hours of MSQ and learn pretty much nothing already.

[ForteNightshade]

It's a reasonable concern until you think about what the MSQ actually teaches the player or how the MSQ gameplay progresses throughout the story, what it asks of the player.

And you'll find that it's not only so completely toothless but instances of actual combat with your chosen job become less and less in general as you progress through expansions, you could do 100 hours of MSQ and learn pretty much nothing already.

Just to emphasis this more. The Trusts are capable of handling big pulls. Alphinaud can even do the super pull in Mt. Gulg. Not the whole way but where the rock wall breaks. It's far from easy and generally significantly easier with Warrior but doable. Obviously, baby players won't be doing this but it does highlight how absurdly easy dungeons are nowadays when bots can handle them. If you're doing small pulls, it's nearly impossible to wipe.

Furthermore, we already have both a tank (Gunbreaker) and a healer (Sage) starting at higher levels with no restrictions whatsoever when people pick them up. Adding to that, jump potions exist. Suffice it to say, everything exists to already make DF a theatrical mess and yet... it's no difference than it ever was. People who care to learn will seek out information online or ask players. Meanwhile, the others won't give a damn no matter what level they start at. Hence why you still see some players crying how they're "learning!!!!!!" at level 90.

The long and short of it is FFXIV does a terrible job of actually showcasing how classes work and the entire MSQ is designed to be exceptionally easy save a handful of dungeons along the way. For every Holminster Switch, you get 5-6 dungeons that can't so much as bring the tank down to 50% much less kill them. Especially if you're doing smaller pulls.