"Barrier Healers" aren't barrier healers

[SargeTheSeagull]

Found another titanman alt

[ForsakenRoe]

I'm in agreement with most of your post, but I think the ability of shields to negate status effects is an interesting difference. It exists now, but it seems like an unintentional fluke rather than something the developers really intended. I wonder if it could be expanded into something that is more noticeable in gameplay?

I've mentioned in several posts previously scattered across this forum, that if every healer had access to 'on demand shields' (ie by giving AST Nocturnal Sect back, and WHM a Lily spender shield like Stoneskin), SE would be able to create the inverse of a 'heal check'. Where we currently have SOS and the True Walking Dead doom effect, or HP-to-1 mechanics like White Hole, this could be a 'shield check', where the debuff is only applied if the attack was not fully shielded. This already exists in UWU, as Ifrit's Vulcan Burst. Before everyone had access to anti-knockback effects (so in SB, when it was current content), shielding everyone with a Succor was the intended strategy. As shown by this quote too

I remember when I started playing the game back in late 2014, burning down the nails in The Bowel of Embers HM was a true mechanic that was facilitated with SCH succor to avoid the KB from Ifrit's eruptions.

So imagine, a raidwide that hits twice. The first hit deals say, 1000 damage exactly, and applies a DOT to everyone. The second hit is one frame later, and deals 'the actual damage of the raidwide'. Because the DOT hit is first, it rolls against your shields first, and so it being such a low amount is basically a 'is there a shield there' check. As a healer, you then have options on how to tackle the mechanic. You can Shield the raidwide to block the debuff. You can Esuna the DOT after it applies (perhaps an AOE Esuna tool finds use here, were it re-added). You can also simply ignore the raidwide, and power through the DOT with extra healing on the post-application side (eg, if your class is heavy on HOTs cough AST). Agency in how to manage the situation.

SE can introduce a VFX that shows 'hey this is something that has an effect you can partially mitigate/remove, by having a shield active'. Like how we have 'you can interrupt this' red flashing castbars, why not a green one with a little shield icon in the middle of it, or something? And since there's mechanics very early in the game (like the aforementioned Ifrit knockback), they can rework earlier content to make use of this new 'tell' to give a tutorial early on to healer players that 'hey this is a mechanic you can do something with', like how they went back and standardized stack/TB markers in early dungeons

Found another titanman alt

Aren't titanmen alts usually level 90 in something? Did he run out of boosts or something?

JK I don't think it's actually him

[Supersnow845]

I’m trying to figure out who sarge is saying is a titanman alt, titanman was always massively anti excessive casualisation of everything but we all know Sebazy is not a titanman alt

[ty_taurus]

I’m trying to figure out who sarge is saying is a titanman alt, titanman was always massively anti excessive casualisation of everything but we all know Sebazy is not a titanman alt

I think they're accusing Hydralus?

[Deceptus]

actually, in most of the casual content in the game, people stand in stuff to do dps since it doesn't even hit half your health lmao

If a DPS can survive a Boss tank buster (I've done that many times) you know there is a low damage issue.

[Aravell]

I’m trying to figure out who sarge is saying is a titanman alt, titanman was always massively anti excessive casualisation of everything but we all know Sebazy is not a titanman alt

It would be the plot twist of a lifetime if Sebazy was a Titanman alt.

[Sebazy]

I'll raise your plot twist with the plot twist of Titanmen being a Sebazy alt

Sadly I'm too lazy at crafting

Back on topic a bit, if griefing really was a concern with a healer using their own HP pool as a buffer of sorts, what about putting that mechanic on a summoned totem? Bonus points if it needed to be placed/moved to avoid mechanics in general but gave appropriate rewards if kept alive++

[ForsakenRoe]

I'll raise your plot twist with the plot twist of Titanmen being a Sebazy alt

Sadly I'm too lazy at crafting

Back on topic a bit, if griefing really was a concern with a healer using their own HP pool as a buffer of sorts, what about putting that mechanic on a summoned totem? Bonus points if it needed to be placed/moved to avoid mechanics in general but gave appropriate rewards if kept alive++

LV96 Trait: Enhanced Fey Union, while tethered, the player splits the damage taken with the Fairy, with the player taking 80% of the damage, and the Fairy taking the other 20%. This effect cannot reduce the HP of the Fairy to zero, and if it would, the damage transfer effect is negated, causing the tethered player to take the excess damage in the Fairy's place.

(aka it's spirit link totem but ST, using the Fairy)

OFC, we can't have such a thing now because the Fairy does not have 'HP' per se, I guess it could be simplified down to something like 'while tethered, the target takes 10% reduced damage' or something

ps it's me I'm the titanmen (or am i)

edit: actually I guess it's more akin to Blessing of Sacrifice, since that actually is ST

[SargeTheSeagull]

I think they're accusing Hydralus?

Correct! But yeah, supersnow is right. Frankly I wrote that pretty late and had nothing clever to say.

[Rithy255]

Funny thing about sage and scholar is that I feel like they're more of a regen healer compared to WHM.

Fairy/kardia is basically a auto regen, Sage & Scholar have access to a Regen AOE that's up all the time on 30s... also both get another one on 60s What does white mage get... one ogcd regen Asylum.. I guess you can kind of count lilly bell...? GCD regens are practically never going to be used on a decent white mage due to how lilies work.

They didn't really lean into the "barrier vs pure" split as much as they could have for sure, obviously both sage/scholar need healing aspects but I feel that they both have too much "healing" aspects and too little barriers outside OGCDs.

I guess GCD healing could become more important but currently healers are so bloated with OGCD healing skills that you never need to gcd heal