RP shout ads are obstructive to chat and gameplay

[Gordita]

As much as I dislike it too, it's not hurting anyone nor obstructing gameplay. Just ignore it and let people enjoy things - be it in their roleplaying.
As someone who AFKs in towns a lot, I don't mind it and I am used to it.
If I want peace and quiet, I'd hang in my house or somewhere quiet like Sharlayan.

If it wasn't causing disruption and annoying players, this thread wouldn't exist. It is a problem and has been a problem for a long time. Just because it doesn't bother you doesn't mean that there isn't a large number of people who do find it bothersome , to say the least. Nobody is stopping rp people from rping, nobody is stopping them from enjoying what they like. Giving them a better way to advertise without causing disruption while keeping shout chat free of spam is Infact beneficial to them, and everyone else

[Gordita]

Turning off shout chat is not a solution, if you read anything in this post at all. Now quit with the disrespect and harassment. You still have done nothing useful in this thread, just mocking and disrespecting people with an extremely stuck up and ignorant attitude, it's very irritating. Find a better use of your time kid.

[Padudu]

If it wasn't causing disruption and annoying players, this thread wouldn't exist. It is a problem and has been a problem for a long time. Just because it doesn't bother you doesn't mean that there isn't a large number of people who do find it bothersome , to say the least. Nobody is stopping rp people from rping, nobody is stopping them from enjoying what they like. Giving them a better way to advertise without causing disruption while keeping shout chat free of spam is Infact beneficial to them, and everyone else

This thread exists specifically because it annoys you and a select others lol. There's not a "large number of people who find it bothersome" to be seen other than what, 5 forum members who complain about it?

And tbh, the shout chat that isn't RP/FC shout ads isn't usually anything other than banter or hornyposting in Crystal.

[Gordita]

This thread exists specifically because it annoys you and a select others lol. There's not a "large number of people who find it bothersome" to be seen other than what, 5 forum members who complain about it?

If you think this thread contains every single player in the world who has an opinion on the matter you're sorely mistaken. Sadly, a lot of people don't come to the forum because of how poorly people behave in here. Go pop around servers across na, and ask in novice how people feel about shout spam and i guarantee you'll find a lot of people who say it's annoying

[Padudu]

If you think this thread contains every single player in the world who has an opinion on the matter you're sorely mistaken. Sadly, a lot of people don't come to the forum because of how poorly people behave in here. Go pop around servers across na, and ask in novice how people feel about shout spam and i guarantee you'll find a lot of people who say it's annoying

I never said that lmao. And I legit live in Crystal where RP/FC ads are the norm, no one gives a single fuck because we can usually just yknow, ignore it. It's text like anything else.

[Thurmnmurmn]

And tbh, the shout chat that isn't RP/FC shout ads isn't usually anything other than banter or hornyposting in Crystal.

That's what I don't get about people who ask to give venues their own chat. As it is right now, shout chat in city's is used for almost nothing else. A hunt train shout here and there too but not much else.
Why would we need another chat to essentially do the exact same thing that shout (in city's) already is? Other than you don't want to see it and don't want to toggle shout chat off/on.

[Gordita]

That's what I don't get about people who ask to give venues their own chat. As it is right now, shout chat in city's is used for almost nothing else. A hunt train shout here and there too but not much else.
Why would we need another chat to essentially do the exact same thing that shout (in city's) already is? Other than you don't want to see it and don't want to toggle shout chat off/on.

It's because venue spam has taken it over , new people immediately turn it off, veteran players won't do that though, because we have used the chat for all kinds of things since before venues were so popular. And shout chat is still used for a lot of things related to gameplay and doing content. Also giving things away at random , etc. So I should turn off shout chat now after 9 years because venue people obnoxiously spam chat and I should miss out on these things ... This is the solution instead of giving them a better and easier way to be heard and seen? The logic behind arguing against this new and improved way for venues to get people at their door escapes me, and makes me concerned for humanity at the same time lmao

The fact that so many people immediately disable these chats upon starting the game, within a couple hours, should be a huge issue with venue people. They're driving away their own customers before they even get a chance to find out venues exist. Even more reason to support this.

[strawberrycake]

The logic at play when applied else where. *No one uses dungeons for EXP, so why give them EXP?* *No One Else is Farming for Mounts on my server, so mounts must not be important* *No One Else uses Mit so Mit Must Not Be Important* I can keep going.

Like a lot of the reason things have occured is due to there being no consistent regulation on what people do and people adjust to it. Like in other MMOs people still talk in game regularly. In XIV? Dead quiet in most places, people do not talk like it's an MMO. So hey lets fix part of the problem.

But no let's let issues within the game fester and become worse, same attitude towards the issues with Job Balance and Content Design, and The lack of a Midcore, the lack of reasons to do higher tier content that that isn't just Ultimates. Like it's ok for ya'll to admit you don't want things to be better, or care about the wellbeing of the game.

[AnaximanderFelidae]

My personal take: the /shout and pf ads are a nuisance. Whether you think venues are appropriate, or what people's rights are, or whatever morals or opinions one may have on the issue, or speculation on what SE will or won't do doesn't change the fact that it's very annoying to see your chat spammed with ads in populated cities and duplicated in party finder. They're too numerous, they shouldn't be encouraged. I like a clean chat. So I, for one, hope there's a way to eliminate or contain them, or reduce them. Maybe have a few designated family-friendly servers? Where there's stricter moderation? I don't really know. But it's worth exploring whatever possibilities might exist that keep the ads in check.

[CVXIV]

The logic at play when applied else where. *No one uses dungeons for EXP, so why give them EXP?* *No One Else is Farming for Mounts on my server, so mounts must not be important* *No One Else uses Mit so Mit Must Not Be Important* I can keep going.

Like a lot of the reason things have occured is due to there being no consistent regulation on what people do and people adjust to it. Like in other MMOs people still talk in game regularly. In XIV? Dead quiet in most places, people do not talk like it's an MMO. So hey lets fix part of the problem.

But no let's let issues within the game fester and become worse, same attitude towards the issues with Job Balance and Content Design, and The lack of a Midcore, the lack of reasons to do higher tier content that that isn't just Ultimates. Like it's ok for ya'll to admit you don't want things to be better, or care about the wellbeing of the game.

The problem with this logic is that it is unequivocally false. You are conflating two separate issues which have no correlation. If people are not talking, it's not because of shout chat, but because they have other avenues to talk in. Most people in this game appear shy, so they would likely remain in FC chat, party chat, or tells. However, you still get people talking in Shout chat occasionally or even say chat.

Wasn't this issue initially was that it is obstructive to gameplay like Hunts? Which still happen, I see them from time to time.

Everyone uses dungeons for experience.
People farm mounts constantly.
Everyone uses mitigation.

You can keep going, but you're wrong every time.