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  1. #261
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    Erzaa Skarlett
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    1. The ToS, in my opinion, is currently used as guidelines more than actual punishable actions (considering what people have been getting away with). You can report them all you want but they'll still be there in game the next day, week, month, etc.. Banwaves are also irrelevant if the accounts are on free-trial and a new one can just be made in a few minutes. Why do you think the same sites are still advertised by bots in main cities even after banwaves, just on different named accounts? Because it's that easy to just get a new one lol. In my opinion, they'd have to tighten up Free Trial even further to prevent this from being used.
    Alright, how would you fix it?

    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    2. We've been asking for more help from SE for years in terms of better handling of reports. This isn't anything new, I'm just in the camp of: "I don't expect them to do anything at this point". Maybe if they take a money hit because of this it'll affect some change.

    3. I agree it is, I've also been in the vocal camp of wanting better blacklisting options for players due to my own stalking incident. However, that's also something I've been waiting 1y+ for and also take the viewpoint of "I don't expect them to do anything at this point." Again, maybe if they take a financial hit because of it, it'll change.
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    These are all things people have been asking for, but it falls on deaf ears. We asked for it in SHB, nothing in EW. We asked for it in EW, nothing mentioned yet for DT (I can't speak on ARR-STB since I wasn't there for it). If it doesn't come for DT, I'm officially wiping my hands of it because it really just says that they have no intention of helping provide better security options for their community.
    That's all you really can do. Petition them, if they don't change and you reach your boiling point, leave. If enough people do the same, they'll address it.
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  2. #262
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    Anastasia Minou-rose
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    This still going. I mean I guess they could take time to program a venues name and a few different variations into shout and yell chat codes then somehow manage to put a hard limit on characters to be used.

    Then somehow have the system recognize that the ad was sent so further ads for said place are auto blocked in said town
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  3. #263
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    Gordita's Avatar
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    Kinda Chad-ngl
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    That's all you really can do. Petition them, if they don't change and you reach your boiling point, leave. If enough people do the same, they'll address it.[/QUOTE]

    If they're smart and respect their paying customers they'll address it before people become upset and start leaving
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  4. #264
    Player Ravenblade1979's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordita View Post
    That's all you really can do. Petition them, if they don't change and you reach your boiling point, leave. If enough people do the same, they'll address it.
    If they're smart and respect their paying customers they'll address it before people become upset and start leaving[/QUOTE]

    Hahaha ha oh God too funny. The only respect they give is to people from their region. Example is the Japanese forum ppl going off on them about that samurai changes
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  5. #265
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordita View Post
    If they're smart and respect their paying customers they'll address it before people become upset and start leaving
    RP ads aren't the reason why people are leaving this game lol.

    On top of that, you're still paying for a sub lmao so clearly it's not making you THAT upset.
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    Last edited by Padudu; 02-23-2024 at 08:01 AM.

  6. #266
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    If they're smart and respect their paying customers they'll address it before people become upset and start leaving
    RP ads aren't the reason why people are leaving this game lol.

    On top of that, you're still paying for a sub lmao so clearly it's not making you THAT upset.[/QUOTE]

    This is one of the most annoying fallacies I see all the time. Most paying consumers will speak their minds and create suggestions and ways to fix an issue so they maintain their continued use of said service over just terminating. Hence why most people keep faith in their games.
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  7. #267
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post

    This is one of the most annoying fallacies I see all the time. Most paying consumers will speak their minds and create suggestions and ways to fix an issue so they maintain their continued use of said service over just terminating. Hence why most people keep faith in their games.
    I didn't say that, whoops. Gordita did. I think the quoting thing became fucky wucky somewhere.
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  8. #268
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    This is one of the most annoying fallacies I see all the time. Most paying consumers will speak their minds and create suggestions and ways to fix an issue so they maintain their continued use of said service over just terminating. Hence why most people keep faith in their games.
    I thought it was the other way round. Vast majority of customers just leave.
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  9. #269
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    I thought it was the other way round. Vast majority of customers just leave.
    Given Yoshida has created a situation where people built faith in him and his team, people will want to try and make things better, and given MMOs usually turn into a hobby for a lot of people they would like to keep said hobby, for many reasons, usually emotional attachment.
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    Last edited by strawberrycake; 02-24-2024 at 04:52 AM.

  10. #270
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    The quote feature got broken with one of my replies and it snowballed from there , neat. Now even the forum is putting words in other people's mouth. Lmao
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