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  1. #781
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    [QUOTE=Corvus_V;6418113]its actually unbelievable that we're sticking to this system and just trying to cope with it. its so bad. its objectively bad. no matter what part of the game you say is good, this part is just objectively, inarguably horribly designed and stupid and so short-sighted it's embarassing and it makes absolutely little to no sense that they would even release a single new decorative item in any consecutive patches given how embarassingly dogshit it all is. i dont even know what the hell proponents of the way this shit works are arguing for. to make it suck more? why not just go outside and eat dirt instead or become a ranger or something? why would you specifically ever even say that less people should participate in the system by design when it clearly doesn't support the people who play on each server? why shouldnt you be able to buy the house you want if you have the gil for it? this is a video-game there is actually no good reason, not even budget, for such a large facet to suck this much

    they need to just make instanced housing lol more wards will always leave a larger majority of people disatisfied than anything else because people arent trying to buy smalls all the time. the wards are almost always empty ~99% of the time even if all the houses are purchased, adding more wards just kind of makes it so that your chances of encountering a neighbor, a stray rat or any sentient thing whatsoever are nothing, even though it was basically some irrational small number in the first place.

    every so often i come back to this forum just to see if anything has changed, and it never does. its comical. its like if there was a subsection of the forums for the grand company squadron shit and the people there coped month after month that the system would ever get updated or you could become more than a captain and it would do anything new at all; the same old thing did not work before lottery because there were not enough houses. now that there are still not enough, lottery is bad. adding a couple new wards every year and a half will not make "enough" there just needs to be enough for the people who want to participate in the way they want to participate and that's the only thing that will make everyone happy. instanced housing will instantly and totally invalidate any value there is in RMT, housing sales, and generally unsanctioned housing mcshittery that people currently participate in. if you had idiots in your wards multi-subbing, the sub economy would probably get tanked by shell-fc's owning instanced workshops. their efforts would be basically made meaningless beyond whatever theyve currently accomplished. there would be no reason for people to hoard houses other than to be deliberately annoying. some people can afford it,


    *Standing applaus* Well written honestly. But be warned cause you'll h ave someone soon quote you for this. so be aware. (P.S Not me.)
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  2. #782
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    M and L are unwanted too on the servers where people hoard houses. If somebody else wanted those larges and mediums there would be lots of bids on them on the very first round after new wards are added. But that's not the case. Empyreum fc mansions on my server had only around 2 bids each when Empyreum was first added. Legitimate fcs who wanted one, got one. Was I shocked to find out later that someone bought an Empyreum ward for themselves? Nope, not when the demand was so low. If those plots had had 50 bids each it wouldn't have been possible, because hoarders cannot bypass the lottery. Ward takeovers are not possible when demand is high.

    The people complaining about multiowners were not bidding on newly added fc mediums and fc larges, probably don't even have their own fc (making them unable to bid in fc wards even if they wanted to), but they are mad someone else bought those plots more than a year ago. I don't think the most desired plots in the game need to be left vacant as an act of charity to serve the wants of long time players who can't be bothered to show up within 5 days to get a free house.

    Some EU and NA worlds will have their locked wards opened for bidding at some point. Will the multiowners bid on those too? Yes. Will the people playing on older servers and complaining about multiowners make characters on those servers and bid there? No, they won't. Because they don't want those houses enough to bid on them. They'll keep blaming multiowners for buying them though.
    This so much btw, I wrote in response to the 2 other peeps, but I had to put a +1 to this one as well.
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  3. #783
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    Actually I think Square Enix only allows 1 FC and one individual house per account per world. But the system has a flaw because you just have to buy a FC with another account and then pass the lead to the first account and thus accumulate several on a single account, which is how people were able to take advantage of this flaw. So several possible FC the answer is yes. Authorized? It's up to you to judge, here is the official link from Square Enix on this subject:https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/
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  4. #784
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lodo View Post
    Actually I think Square Enix only allows 1 FC and one individual house per account per world. But the system has a flaw because you just have to buy a FC with another account and then pass the lead to the first account and thus accumulate several on a single account, which is how people were able to take advantage of this flaw. So several possible FC the answer is yes. Authorized? It's up to you to judge, here is the official link from Square Enix on this subject:https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/


    Embarrassingly, the way house hoarders circumvent this is by paying monthly for numerous service accounts and creating dozens of FCs amidst their alts for the explicit sake of hoarding.
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  5. #785
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impia View Post
    Embarrassingly, the way house hoarders circumvent this is by paying monthly for numerous service accounts and creating dozens of FCs amidst their alts for the explicit sake of hoarding.
    Yep. wich is sad. But meh. Their life, their money. :shrug:
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  6. #786
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuniko View Post
    Yep. wich is sad. But meh. Their life, their money. :shrug:
    Yet you are the one that doesnt have a large, while I have multiple just like many of my multiowner friends, so one is doing things right, the other is just complaining endlessly and refuses to do anything to help themselves.

    If you dont want to do the work to be a multiowner (since apparently its ooooooooooooh so easy), then just bid with your single character and stop complaining over other people putting in more work than you do.

    Is it really sad to do everything in order to achieve what you want ? Nope.

    Is it really sad to do absolutely nothing and to complain endlessly about something you yourself can fix ? Absolutely.
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  7. #787
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    Yet you are the one that doesnt have a large, while I have multiple just like many of my multiowner friends, so one is doing things right, the other is just complaining endlessly and refuses to do anything to help themselves.

    If you dont want to do the work to be a multiowner (since apparently its ooooooooooooh so easy), then just bid with your single character and stop complaining over other people putting in more work than you do.

    Is it really sad to do everything in order to achieve what you want ? Nope.

    Is it really sad to do absolutely nothing and to complain endlessly about something you yourself can fix ? Absolutely.
    Ok? And? I am still bidding, and trying for a large. I made this thread due to the bad housing system.

    If ya ain't happy bout dat, stop complainin! :3
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  8. #788
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuniko View Post
    Ok? And? I am still bidding, and trying for a large. I made this thread due to the bad housing system.

    If ya ain't happy bout dat, stop complainin! :3
    It's literally self inflicted, so complaining about it is just hilarious to me, but please do go on lmao.
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  9. #789
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    It's literally self inflicted, so complaining about it is just hilarious to me, but please do go on lmao.
    You have to know that not everyone who can afford a service account is privileged enough to afford as many service accounts
    as you have to bid with, nor has the same luxury of time that you do to accumulate the resources to bid on so many houses at once (though submarines are surely providing the in-game funds autonomously at this point.)

    Setting aside that your being able to do this in the first place is a huge flaw in the system, your telling others so condescendingly that they're doing something wrong for not simply imitating you is beyond the pail and for my money is what invites so much disrespect your way. It's not simply a matter of effort = results. There's this tremendous opportunity cost as a result of having to whale to such and absurd degree to imitate you that is insurmountable to most. You're simply lucky or financially irresponsible enough to do what you do. If I spent what you spend on virtual housing, I wouldn't have IRL housing. I know I'm far from isolated in that. Please at least acknowledge that this is a very privileged position you're in rather than telling everyone to act like you or they're doing it wrong.
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    Well 2 days and another round is upon us!
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