Please more housing wards soon. And no more FC/Private Hybrid.

[Azmo2]

Yes, that's also unfair, i never said anything different.
So... ??

[Stormpeaks]

Yes, that's also unfair, i never said anything different.
So... ??

So you call it abuse yet anybody can do it, and that does include you.

Ever thought maybe you're just being lazy and dont want to do the work multiowners put in ? If it's "oh so easy" to multiown and get easy tons of larges and mediums, then why dont you show us ? Please do.

[Azmo2]

So you call it abuse yet anybody can do it, and that does include you.

Ever thought maybe you're just being lazy and dont want to do the work multiowners put in ? If it's "oh so easy" to multiown and get easy tons of larges and mediums, then why dont you show us ? Please do.

*deep breath*
- I'm not interested in multi-houses owning

- I never said this is "easy", you were. You litteraly told me that 3 big plots for 60 people is more than enough, so decide yourself, this is hard or easy ?

- This is abusive, it's litteraly written on the lodestone guide :
"* Players possessing housing above this limit prior to patch 4.2 will not be affected by this change.
* It is possible to relocate estate halls to empty plots."
This is what i'm talking about mostly. You find that fair that because you had the possibility before 4.2, you can still get the benefits of that while all the other players can't ?
Now... this rule of "one plot/account" exists for a reason, don't you agree ? You found a way to bypass that limitation even after the 4.2 limitation ? Great, wp, what an achievement, you are amazing. But even if it's respecting the ToS, you found a way to appropriate all for yourself a higher part of a limited ressource, preventing other people to get a normal part of that limited ressource. You find that fair ? Fine.

I'm not going to argue with you more than that, it's not like we're going to agree on the subject all of the sudden.

[Stormpeaks]

*deep breath*
- I'm not interested in multi-houses owning

- I never said this is "easy", you were. You litteraly told me that 3 big plots for 60 people is more than enough, so decide yourself, this is hard or easy ?

- This is abusive, it's litteraly written on the lodestone guide :
"* Players possessing housing above this limit prior to patch 4.2 will not be affected by this change.
* It is possible to relocate estate halls to empty plots."
This is what i'm talking about mostly. You find that fair that because you had the possibility before 4.2, you can still get the benefits of that while all the other players can't ?
Now... this rule of "one plot/account" exists for a reason, don't you agree ? You found a way to bypass that limitation even after the 4.2 limitation ? Great, wp, what an achievement, you are amazing. But even if it's respecting the ToS, you found a way to appropriate all for yourself a higher part of a limited ressource, preventing other people to get a normal part of that limited ressource. You find that fair ? Fine.

I'm not going to argue with you more than that, it's not like we're going to agree on the subject all of the sudden.

Thank you, you said everything I wanted to know.

Glad we put that out of the way, and yup, putting more effort in a video game gets you more reward, boohoo.

[Azmo2]

Thank you, you said everything

Thanks, i'm glad we finally agree :-)

[Reinha]

But even if it's respecting the ToS, you found a way to appropriate all for yourself a higher part of a limited ressource, preventing other people to get a normal part of that limited ressource.

Who is being prevented from buying a house on Dynamis because of Stormspeaks? You are literally mad they own houses on a dead server you or others don't even want to play on. You are on Moogle. Multiowners could own 0 or 500 houses on Halicarnassus and you would not get any more or less mansions on your own server as a result of that. These complaints are just irrational and I don't understand them.

I'm trying to get a private mansion too, bidding against 100 people each round, but people on other servers have no impact on my circumstances so there is no point in blaming them. The only things that would make a difference would be other players moving away from my server, or me moving.

[Yuniko]

It is what it is.

I just think it's more that we're all tired of the constant stuff of housing and everyone's tempers are getting abit high these days. :<

I will keep trying for a house no matter how many people is trying. Got to have hope

[Azmo2]

Who is being prevented from buying a house on Dynamis because of Stormspeaks? You are literally mad they own houses on a dead server you or others don't even want to play on. You are on Moogle. Multiowners could own 0 or 500 houses on Halicarnassus and you would not get any more or less mansions on your own server as a result of that. These complaints are just irrational and I don't understand them.

I'm trying to get a private mansion too, bidding against 100 people each round, but people on other servers have no impact on my circumstances so there is no point in blaming them. The only things that would make a difference would be other players moving away from my server, or me moving.

I'm not blaming him personnally for getting all the plots on his serv
As you said, i'm on Moogle which is on EU lol, so idc about what he's doing in the game in fact, it doesn't affect me in any way.

I'm arguing with him on the principle. He's telling me that multi-owning is totally fine and fair. I disagree as i don't find that fair, whether it is easy or hard to do, whether it is before or after 4.2 limitation patch.
I explained my pov before, he has his own pov, we'll never agree on that.

That's all a matter of rules that looks absurd to me and not to him apparently.

To conclude, it's mostly SE's fault in the first place.
They should just adjust the offer, so that everyone could be satisfied (and this topic wouldn't exist at all).

And for the multi-owning stuff, either they remove any type of limitation (so, if you have the money AND the luck, go for it), or they totally prevent any sort of mult-plot owning in general, including those who owned like an entire ward before 4.2 and stuff like that.
That way, that would be fair and clear imo.
Agree or disagree, that's my point of view and what i meant in all my argument with Stormpeaks, and not the current situation of NA servs.

[Reinha]

I'm arguing with him on the principle. He's telling me that multi-owning is totally fine and fair. I disagree as i don't find that fair, whether it is easy or hard to do, whether it is before or after 4.2 limitation patch.

I still fail to see whats unfair about taking multiples of something nobody else wants.

In my country there is a law which allows anyone to gather naturally growing food no matter whose land its on. Berries, mushrooms and plants, etc. If nobody went picking, it would fall on the ground and rot because there's so much growing everywhere. Food would (and does) go to waste. People don't complain it's unfair how Aunt Margaret has a huge bucket of blueberries this year and others have none. Because if they wanted to they could go pick their own bucket for free, or they can choose not to and just let it fall on the ground.

The same way you can just go pick buckets of unwanted houses on dead servers. Or not and leave them rotting, benefiting no one.

[Impia]

Yes. Even 50 more would be great.
there are already 60 people after 1 day on 3 miserable big plots on the entire serv (that just got free, they were locked just before obviously), but you're totally right, that's more than enough lmao.

I'm not blaming him personnally for getting all the plots on his serv
As you said, i'm on Moogle which is on EU lol, so idc about what he's doing in the game in fact, it doesn't affect me in any way.

I'm arguing with him on the principle. He's telling me that multi-owning is totally fine and fair. I disagree as i don't find that fair, whether it is easy or hard to do, whether it is before or after 4.2 limitation patch.
I explained my pov before, he has his own pov, we'll never agree on that.

That's all a matter of rules that looks absurd to me and not to him apparently.

To conclude, it's mostly SE's fault in the first place.
They should just adjust the offer, so that everyone could be satisfied (and this topic wouldn't exist at all).

And for the multi-owning stuff, either they remove any type of limitation (so, if you have the money AND the luck, go for it), or they totally prevent any sort of mult-plot owning in general, including those who owned like an entire ward before 4.2 and stuff like that.
That way, that would be fair and clear imo.
Agree or disagree, that's my point of view and what i meant in all my argument with Stormpeaks, and not the current situation of NA servs.

Don't even try with Reinha and Stormy. Their greedy heads are shoved so deeply into each other's bs they're high on each other's fumes.