RP shout ads are obstructive to chat and gameplay

[Metalface_Villain]

Anyone under 18 should stay out.

say your kid is watching cartoons in the morning and suddenly they get an ad that warns it's 18 plus but then proceeds to advertise p-hub, would that be ok or should the tv station take measures for ads like that to not be there. imo that's pretty close to this, so saying just stay out or keep an eye on your kid 24/7 is a bit silly. people have had this same convo about gambling promotions on twitch and the normal take was that that wasn't ok. the only reason this is so debatable and controversial here in ff14 is because of the amount of perverts that we have. i had been playin wow for years, a game known for its bad community and its toxicity and i never encountered things like this, meanwhile one of my earliest experiences in ff14 was some dude and his catgirl trynna have sex with me xD

[Stormpeaks]

say your kid is watching cartoons in the morning and suddenly they get an ad that warns it's 18 plus but then proceeds to advertise p-hub, would that be ok or should the tv station take measures for ads like that to not be there. imo that's pretty close to this, so saying just stay out or keep an eye on your kid 24/7 is a bit silly. people have had this same convo about gambling promotions on twitch and the normal take was that that wasn't ok. the only reason this is so debatable and controversial here in ff14 is because of the amount of perverts that we have. i had been playin wow for years, a game known for its bad community and its toxicity and i never encountered things like this, meanwhile one of my earliest experiences in ff14 was some dude and his catgirl trynna have sex with me xD

I have played wow for 15+ years, there is ERP all over the place in there too, especially on moonguard goldshire and Argent dawn for EU, stop lying to yourself

[TBerry]

say your kid is watching cartoons in the morning and suddenly they get an ad that warns it's 18 plus but then proceeds to advertise p-hub, would that be ok or should the tv station take measures for ads like that to not be there. imo that's pretty close to this, so saying just stay out or keep an eye on your kid 24/7 is a bit silly. people have had this same convo about gambling promotions on twitch and the normal take was that that wasn't ok. the only reason this is so debatable and controversial here in ff14 is because of the amount of perverts that we have. i had been playin wow for years, a game known for its bad community and its toxicity and i never encountered things like this, meanwhile one of my earliest experiences in ff14 was some dude and his catgirl trynna have sex with me xD

I'm fairly certain that would be against the law. Also I'm sure that these advertisements are required to mention it's 18+, and nothing explicit should be mentioned as that would be reportable behavior. Also 18+ can also mean other dark and adult themes, such as alcohol, drug use, swearing, shady/criminal acts, or even graphic descriction of violence. And everyone has the right to say no. Not complying is a surefire way to get a harassment report.
It is unfortunate that a minor was tried to get recruited, but there was no way for the player to know. The approach should have been different, and only once it was made sure the other player is 18 or over, should have been told what they would sign up for.
Though Wikipedia does not mention that courtesanship, at least in the traditional sense, would include ERP. And OP never told us what exactly the player wanted from her, I think.

[EDIT]
A I see, it's an eupenism for prostitute.

[Metalface_Villain]

I have played wow for 15+ years, there is ERP all over the place in there too, especially on moonguard goldshire and Argent dawn for EU, stop lying to yourself

only place i know where there was erp in wow was on dedicated rp servers, in normal servers the worst i had seen is people spamming sit on others in goldshire xD

[TBerry]

Still, I think a bit of awareness from others, and understanding what's happening helps too.

[LianaThorne]

do you think in the places where it is legal they allow underage kids? i personally have no problem with sex work and it would be much better if it was regulated and legal but this a game is rated for 13 years old and up, such things shouldn't be there for kids to experience.

Idk why you're asking me this when the ToS literally allows private ERP lol. Square seems to think it's fine for sexual activities to occur in a 13+ game. Is it creepy and weird? No duh. Are they gonna do anything about it? Nope.

This is why I don't touch the RP scene with a 10 foot pole (as I've said in other threads). I don't get the appeal and for the most part it's just people profiting off each other in the venue scene.

[TBerry]

Idk why you're asking me this when the ToS literally allows private ERP lol. Square seems to think it's fine for sexual activities to occur in a 13+ game. Is it creepy and weird? No duh. Are they gonna do anything about it? Nope.

This is why I don't touch the RP scene with a 10 foot pole (as I've said in other threads). I don't get the appeal and for the most part it's just people profiting off each other in the venue scene.

That's just the RP scene in the NA servers. Outside Nightclubs rarely any to none of the RP venues charge actual Gil.

[Merrigan]

I have played wow for 15+ years, there is ERP all over the place in there too, especially on moonguard goldshire and Argent dawn for EU, stop lying to yourself

There are obviously some on WOW, but I find it less invasive overall? I must stress that this is my perception of the situation, and I obviously don't have any figures on the number of people who engage in this type of RP. Another thing that could potentially bother a bit more on FF is the "cute" side of the characters. I honestly find it hard to believe that Miqote, Lala and the rest look like adults. The Miqotes in particular remind me of 14-year-old girls. So inevitably, when you have characters like that getting involved in ERP, it adds a creepiness that WOW will never have.

That said, I'm still convinced of one thing: children are too often used as an excuse to make an environment more puritanical. In this case (ERP), I think the subject deserves to be discussed. But as it is part of a more general trend that has recently led to a series of outright censures in the artistic and literary spheres, all done with the proviso of protecting children, and at the risk of silencing voices that were tackling difficult but worthy subjects... Let's just say that the "children must be protected at all costs" argument is becoming highly unsympathetic. Not every environment can be child-friendly, that's just the way it is.

[strawberrycake]

I have played wow for 15+ years, there is ERP all over the place in there too, especially on moonguard goldshire and Argent dawn for EU, stop lying to yourself

You mean the Dedicated RP servers made for Dedicated Rp where even the GMs make sure people are folowing the Rules of the Dedicated RP servers and are fairly hands on with how players interact in the, you know.....Dedicated RP server?

[strawberrycake]

There are obviously some on WOW, but I find it less invasive overall? I must stress that this is my perception of the situation, and I obviously don't have any figures on the number of people who engage in this type of RP. Another thing that could potentially bother a bit more on FF is the "cute" side of the characters. I honestly find it hard to believe that Miqote, Lala and the rest look like adults. The Miqotes in particular remind me of 14-year-old girls. So inevitably, when you have characters like that getting involved in ERP, it adds a creepiness that WOW will never have.

That said, I'm still convinced of one thing: children are too often used as an excuse to make an environment more puritanical. In this case (ERP), I think the subject deserves to be discussed. But as it is part of a more general trend that has recently led to a series of outright censures in the artistic and literary spheres, all done with the proviso of protecting children, and at the risk of silencing voices that were tackling difficult but worthy subjects... Let's just say that the "children must be protected at all costs" argument is becoming highly unsympathetic. Not every environment can be child-friendly, that's just the way it is.

While I can agree not every enviornment is meant for children and Adults need their own spaces to, what about the other cases, in this case with the Ops daughter do we say not everything needs to involve children?

I remember being a kid on an MMO, I've actually been approached sexually by a 30 yr old when i was 16, I didn;t do anything to gain such attention, I was just trying to do some weekly content before I joined a pug for reclears. I think theres a middle ground between protecting children and allowing adults to express themselves freely. Which is sually these things only being done in trusted groups, not just out in the open where other adults are even uncomfortable.

Like no ones saying you can't walk around butt naked, but why not do so in places where others including adults and children won't be bothered?

Like the reason I do not go to the Quick Sands when I visit friends on Balmung, is because of the literal nonesense that gets spewed in the shout chat there. or the creepy ass DMs I've recived. Now imagine the uninitiated. So while some people here are def being overly puritan in their zeal to get rid of ERP, I see it more so as the game has sadly attracted a lot of the fringe side of individuals and now children aren't safe period.