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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    It really just depends on the locale. Cyberstalking, and in particular exposing someone to lewd material without their consent, is indeed a crime in some states. There's also a decent chance that Online Impersonation is a crime as well.

    In my state for example, all of these things are illegal and plenty of people have been sent to jail.
    In the context of a video game people have been convicted? I have spent the weekend trying to find one case that supports this claim. Ones that appear to get convicted appear to bleed into outside the internet.

    That does not appear to be the case here.

    What is being targeted is a video game character, nothing suggestions the person is targeting the person themselves. I do not think video game characters are considered an extension of a person, thus things like libel, doxing, blackmail, etc . . . Are considered viable threats.

    I personally just fail what protections people are expecting to get from the police in this case if all that being exposed is images of their video game character.

    Sure of they were a minor the lewd images could be an issue, but to say this meets the level of cyberstalking when the focus seems to be on the video game character seems wholly disingenuous.
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    Last edited by Bobby66; 01-29-2024 at 04:38 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Is it exposing if they have to willfully click or refuse to block the person? In the context of a video game people have been convicted? I have spent the weekend trying to find one case that supports this claim. Ones that appear to get convicted appear to bleed into outside the internet.

    That does not appear to be the case here.

    What is being targeted is a video game character, nothing suggestions the person is targeting the person themselves. I do not think video game characters are considered an extension of a person, thus things like libel, doxing, blackmail, etc . . . Are considered viable threats.
    So recently with Bungie, there a case that does exist for cyber bullying and doxing, due to the Admins of Destiny being actively attacked and Doxed, one even had a pizza sent to their house off work hours by a player who was mad about changes. Cyber bullying is becoming more a recognized threat for a lot of states and laws are slowly, very slowly, being made to account for it now a days. In a lot these cases if the company isn;t doing anything you can seek help for it. You may also be get SE to consider changing there stance on being active about these situations as well if they get henious enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    So recently with Bungie, there a case that does exist for cyber bullying and doxing, due to the Admins of Destiny being actively attacked and Doxed, one even had a pizza sent to their house off work hours by a player who was mad about changes. Cyber bullying is becoming more a recognized threat for a lot of states and laws are slowly, very slowly, being made to account for it now a days. In a lot these cases if the company isn;t doing anything you can seek help for it. You may also be get SE to consider changing there stance on being active about these situations as well if they get henious enough.
    Their irl information got released the target was a real person. The target here appears to be the character. Unless they have target them as a person beyond the scope of their characters.

    Yes one could argue a person is behind the character, but I don't think legally a character is offered the same protections and rights as the person in control of said character.

    Has the OP be doxdd irlm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Their irl information got released the target was a real person. The target here appears to be the character. Unless they have target them as a person beyond the scope of their characters.

    Yes one could argue a person is behind the character, but I don't think legally a character is offered the same protections and rights as the person in control of said character.

    Has the OP be doxdd irlm
    Well the main thing is these laws wanna account for that, people behind the characters or accounts, etc, being able to defend themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Their irl information got released the target was a real person. The target here appears to be the character. Unless they have target them as a person beyond the scope of their characters.

    Yes one could argue a person is behind the character, but I don't think legally a character is offered the same protections and rights as the person in control of said character.

    Has the OP be doxdd irlm
    You can't honestly believe the stalker is targeting the character and not the person controlling the character. Do you honestly believe the stalker would simply stop if the character was deleted and Op made a new one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    You can't honestly believe the stalker is targeting the character and not the person controlling the character. Do you honestly believe the stalker would simply stop if the character was deleted and Op made a new one?
    Thats the main thing right, Op has proven that the character doesn't matter, they wanna affect the person behind it as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    You can't honestly believe the stalker is targeting the character and not the person controlling the character. Do you honestly believe the stalker would simply stop if the character was deleted and Op made a new one?
    They're just being a weird contrarian and apparently can't even accomplish very basic research on google.

    I would strongly advise OP to just ignore them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashemmi View Post
    Emboldened, because nothing happens to them in game -- they also approach me on the outside.
    Yes, that's a friend request from them.
    The links they spread, call my character out specifically -- even inviting others to whisper those oh so "sweet" lewd nothings to me.

    I've taken the time to black out the direct links, and obscure the images.

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...24/discord.png
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...072/f-list.png
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...34/f-list2.png
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...34706/link.png
    For these instances, I would be going to Discord and F-List with a case of impersonation. idk how FL handles it but I know Discord does take it seriously, especially since it's advertising, essentially, technically revenge porn to harass you.

    While I know SE usually doesn't use links outside of the game in their reports, have you dropped them in your reports? Mention the real life crime of revenge porn in your reports too. I would also be going above the GMs heads and going to customer support and request for escalation since the GMs aren't doing crap to help you.

    I hope this gross person gets the boot and you get some peace
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    Well the main thing is these laws wanna account for that, people behind the characters or accounts, etc, being able to defend themselves.
    Currently I do not think any country, or state extends those rights to the online character or persona. I very well could be wrong in this regard when it comes to cyberstalking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    Currently I do not think any country, or state extends those rights to the online character or persona. I very well could be wrong in this regard when it comes to cyberstalking.
    Yah you're being a contrarian like they said up top, goodbye.
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