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  1. #381
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    That's a you problem, not mine, the only thing I mentioned is that they were originally the other sex. And they transitioned, which makes them trans + their new gender.

    It's really that simple.

    There is literally 0 transphobia in that, if you see transphobia in it, that's on you.
    Not only it is loaded, it is just objectively wrong. Biologically speaking, there isn't a single person, animal, plant, entity on this planet and beyond that is a man or a woman -- These are genders, and by themselves, they aren't biological as they have nothing to do with biology. Sex and gender are two separate things, and neither of these are aboslute. So, actually, it is a you problem.

    I'll be crystal clear about this: the VA, her gender and everything else about them personally, has nothing to do with the subject at hand. For the love of all that is good, please, stay on topic.
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  2. #382
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    I did watch a lot of the cutscenes with the english dub, and to be honest, her voice didn't sound particularly odd to me. On the contrary, I feel like it goes really well with the rest of the english cast. Her accent sounds pretty different from, say, Alphinaud. And that's a great thing, I like having a more diverse range of voices in the game.

    This is more aimed at SE than anything, but if you're going to have a south american inspired expansion, please, hire some south americans. That would've been a better look for a lot of people, but I am content with EN Wuk Lamat atm.

    COME TO TURAL
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  3. #383
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    I think that Wuk Lamat and the VA have been absolutely fantastic so far, and it's quite pleasant to get a character without having to deal with any of the "Hidalgo why dost thou protest so, let us away!" - speak that plagues FFXIV.
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    Last edited by Eldtagg; 01-27-2024 at 12:00 AM.

  4. #384
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    Amazing that this thread has 39 comments. Does this forum even have moderators?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PorxiesRCute View Post
    Amazing that this thread has 39 comments. Does this forum even have moderators?
    Why do you want the thread removed? I'd just make a new one. People need to know that not everyone is happy!
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  6. #386
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    A lot of complaints seems to be related to her identity tho'.
    That's tells me you're specifically looking for them. There have been hundreds of comments on this and out of all of them, maybe a handful of comments on it from trolls.
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  7. #387
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doragan View Post
    Sex and gender are two separate things, and neither of these are aboslute
    Saying sex isn't absolute is inherently anti-science.


    For the love of all that is good, please, stay on topic.
    After you attempt to get your last word in? No.

    Edit: for clarity, I have no clue what the context of this argument is and I don't care. You can support trans and not refuse to acknowledge facts, likewise you can support trans and still criticize their work because being something should not make you immune to criticism. That creates an unhealthy environment for everyone.
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    Last edited by Troxbark; 01-27-2024 at 03:09 AM.

  8. #388
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    That's a you problem, not mine, the only thing I mentioned is that they were originally the other sex. And they transitioned, which makes them trans + their new gender.

    It's really that simple.

    There is literally 0 transphobia in that, if you see transphobia in it, that's on you.
    I personally don't think you were intentionally being transphobic. I just think you have a poor attitude and are speaking from a place of ignorance. All I want to stress to you is that people could assume much worse of you based on your language.
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  9. #389
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    Quote Originally Posted by LynxDubh View Post
    I personally don't think you were intentionally being transphobic. I just think you have a poor attitude and are speaking from a place of ignorance. All I want to stress to you is that people could assume much worse of you based on your language.
    You all throw the Xphobic or Xphobe around so much, no one really cares anymore. Stormpeaks explained the comment and keeps getting attacked, if you want to assume something about someone it's looking worse for you and the other like minded people.
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  10. #390
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troxbark View Post
    You all throw the Xphobic or Xphobe around so much, no one really cares anymore. Stormpeaks explained the comment and keeps getting attacked, if you want to assume something about someone it's looking worse for you and the other like minded people.
    Can you knock it off with the tribalistic drivel? You keep trying to spin this towards an us vs. them narrative. It's clear that you're only on this thread to bring others into your camp.
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