Feedback: Feeling disappointed by 6.55's narrative, and thus unsure about Dawntrail

[Turtledeluxe]

I love 6.0-- it was my favorite MSQ in terms of having peak moments of writing/direction. That said, if you had high expectations for 7.0 I feel like that's on you. While dialogue and characterization can be great, scenarios can sometimes be a letdown, or downright nonsensical.

That's not to say I totally agree and that they didn't justify going to Tural at all. They tried-- the warmongering sibling, Wuk Lamat's anxiety, the desire to learn a new place, etc. But it's definitely not a particularly interesting or strong scenario setup. It feels very safe.

It also doesn't help that they spoiled most of the patch before it was out. They're spoiling the safest elements of the story, so when they happen, it feels extra dull. I might stop watching their media releases, tbh.

[WeebPolice]

Yeah, that sounds about right. And if the current ruling party gets out of line, the WoL or the Scions will just destroy them or remove them from power and install a new one to lead the state - one that's more in line with their moral opinions, etc. I know people on these forums aren't going to like the optics of the WoL/Scions being conquerors who take by force, but it's pretty much what they are.


True, a less involved role where the WoL/Scions don't influence an entire population of a nation by replacing its governing body would be nice in this case.

Nay, citizen. The uncivilized savages in Dawntrail must be brought to heel. Such is the way of life, or at least the way Dawntrail's story writer wants this to go.




For duty and valor.

[AmorfaVex]

Two of my BEST friends in the whole world thought so much of Wukie that they backed a different candidate.

Oh, im going to Tural, but I'll be sticking with my boys Urianger and Thancred on this one.

Gonna leave Erenville, Krile, and the twins to fend for themselves with Wukie.

[MisterNublet]

Let's not forget this part. They couldn't even make it to DawnTrail before announcing a big new bad whom wants to start a war that the scions will have to put a stop to. Couldn't even let us discover or figure it out ourselves during the next expansion that maybe the person we're backing isn't really who they say there are, or is actually a bad person.

I look forward to the meaningless competition between the scions that'll quickly dissipate by the first dungeon as we'll now have to work together to stop the aforementioned bad brother. Gotta have the Scions together to run trust dungeons obviously.

Just a continuation of Endwalker's poor writing.

[Raven2014]

I look forward to the meaningless competition between the scions that'll quickly dissipate by the first dungeon as we'll now have to work together to stop the aforementioned bad brother. Gotta have the Scions together to run trust dungeons obviously.

I'm more amazing at how confidence you are at predicting where the story will go actually. Like because of a 10 minute interaction pre-expansion scene, you "literally" know how the entire next expansion gonna go and resolve? Have you ever considered apply for a writer position? I don't know if oyu have the skill, but like I said your confidence is ... admirable.


Like ... just because you see the arrow point that way, doesn't mean it will go straight down the same way without any twixt and turn. In HW the pope was the one granting us entry, the dragon has always been seen as the bad guy. Heck, the first half of the story we can almost be seen as allies because our mutual enemies Ascian. But shit hit the fan when you realize one side trying to play god, while the other side could have ended the war but have no interest to, because it's suffering that they want. Or more recent Zero's story arc. Putting aside the actual quality which I personally don't think very highly of. But still, it started as a mutual enemy, but end with a mutual corporation and partnership.


Now I'm not saying you will be 100% wrong, 7.0 could go all the way to the end exactly the way you predict. Also, follow any one thing long enough and there will be pattern and certain amount of predictibity can be expected. What is weird is how much confidence you predict the story will fly "straight like an arrow", I'm sorry ... when was the last time the main story of any FF game were straight like an arrow? So the most polite word can I can offer you is ... a bit pre-mature don't you think?

[Iscah]

Gotta have the Scions together to run trust dungeons obviously.

We don't, actually. All we need is three or four party members who can fill any combination of roles around the player. If the twins and Krile are all directly accompanying us then we have a tank, a healer and two DPS, so we're all set.

[SieyaM]

Regardless of the events before DT, it seems irresponsible for us to try and install a ruler of a nation we know next to nothing about just because they happen to ask us for support first. No matter how many plot hand waves they put in about this being encouraged because it fosters collaboration with other nations or whatever else they try and say. I am also not looking forward to an entire expansion of "trial by combat" when it is an already grossly overused plot device in this game.

[Jeeqbit]

I am also not looking forward to an entire expansion of "trial by combat" when it is an already grossly overused plot device in this game.

It is a video game. There is already a lot of talking and cutscenes as it is. Should we also resolve all our fights with dungeon bosses with peaceful negotiation? At that point we could consider just removing combat from the game and being crafter mains for real.

[SieyaM]

It is a video game. There is already a lot of talking and cutscenes as it is. Should we also resolve all our fights with dungeon bosses with peaceful negotiation? At that point we could consider just removing combat from the game and being crafter mains for real.

I think you've misunderstood. Trial by combat is like when Hydaelyn has us prove ourselves by fighting her, rather than just having witnessed our entire journey from2.0 onward and using that as evidence of our worthiness. Trial by combat means for whatever contrived reason you've decided to settle an argument or prove your worth by combat rather than other means.

[Swordsman]

Nay, citizen. The uncivilized savages in Dawntrail must be brought to heel. Such is the way of life, or at least the way Dawntrail's story writer wants this to go.




For duty and valor.

Lmao, true. Which is fine provided we have sufficient reason to do so. I'm 100% for going in with guns blazing if it's for a good cause. But I feel it's a commonly reoccurring trope with SE at this point, which is why I agreed with Ath192 earlier when he said: "It would've been a lot better if we simply got a native explorer looking for people daring enough to find a lost city or something and we left the government out of it."


Edit:

Regardless of the events before DT, it seems irresponsible for us to try and install a ruler of a nation we know next to nothing about just because they happen to ask us for support first.

This is also true. It's a very rash decision to pick a side in a conflict without even bothering to get the full picture.