PVP need higher skill ceiling , cc , more ability.

[YouWereIndicted]

Agreed with all of this. With what the poster said above, it did seem like The Feast had this kind of system. Healers kept people alive and were very important for winning. Tanks would CC and use mit and lockdown a target while the DPS burned them down and the DPS did countdown callouts to coordinate.

Unfortunately, this kind of group effort has been stripped down so effectively working as a team is literally just timing LBs and going after the target with no purify/guard or low MP. Some people can't even do that right with 3/4 button skills so expecting more than that is just...yeah. It seems like they wanted this games' PvP to be more casual friendly so I guess that's why its as shallow as it is now. They succeeded in that regard by making it more accessible but anyone who wanted PvP to be a substitute for endgame or challenge is playing the wrong game here. Light Party matches in voice chat is really the closest you're ever going to get to that.

They don't even give us decent ranked rewards anymore because people who never cared or played the mode in the past complained about it.

[Commander_Justitia]

"PVP need higher skill ceiling"

This is true, and idc really how they do it.

It seems like they wanted this games' PvP to be more casual friendly so I guess that's why its as shallow as it is now. They succeeded in that regard by making it more accessible but anyone who wanted PvP to be a substitute for endgame or challenge is playing the wrong game here.

Pretty much. The keep making it difficult for veterans and experienced player to win against newbies and inexperienced. All the PvP knowledge doesn't matter if you don't have a cc effect and your enemy can press 1 button to heal your perfectly executed burst combo. PvP needs to be more punishing if you play poorly.

[YouWereIndicted]

"PVP need higher skill ceiling"

This is true, and idc really how they do it.



Pretty much. The keep making it difficult for veterans and experienced player to win against newbies and inexperienced. All the PvP knowledge doesn't matter if you don't have a cc effect and your enemy can press 1 button to heal your perfectly executed burst combo. PvP needs to be more punishing if you play poorly.

I guess sometimes I have to remind myself that the casual playerbase is the majority and that is the way they will move towards. But yeah, it is much easier for 1 person to bring down a whole team causing a snowball than it is for 1 person to essentially "carry."

The fact Miracle of Nature still exists seems like a testament of how they want this games' PvP to move towards in terms of skill, haha.

[Commander_Justitia]

The fact Miracle of Nature still exists seems like a testament of how they want this games' PvP to move towards in terms of skill, haha.

Avatar checks out. Superior Imp gameplay.