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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    particularly given that we weren't actually shown anything of Urianger withholding secrets while interacting with us
    I won't deny the possibility for alternate readings, but given that he was waiting a mere 2 minutes from our dwelling, it seems like he could have chosen to discuss what was overheard with us. If he chose not to do that, then he chose to make it a secret.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    In the context of this competition, we're not friends but opponents, and keeping to himself isn't any more a betrayal than if we were playing a card game and he won't show his cards to us. It's just how the game is played.
    I don't mind that Urianger won't show us his hand, but I do mind that he isn't telling us he's playing the game. Especially when it's not a game; the Scions have experienced far too much to treat a contest that will determine the well-being of at least one nation — if not the world — as if it were a game.

    Regardless, I'm not writing off the expansion yet. I like Wuk Lamat as a character. I'm eager to see Tural. But there do seem to be some red flags that the writers don't understand the characters or the world they're writing, and that has me concerned. I hope I'm wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    I won't deny the possibility for alternate readings, but given that he was waiting a mere 2 minutes from our dwelling, it seems like he could have chosen to discuss what was overheard with us. If he chose not to do that, then he chose to make it a secret.


    I don't mind that Urianger won't show us his hand, but I do mind that he isn't telling us he's playing the game. Especially when it's not a game; the Scions have experienced far too much to treat a contest that will determine the well-being of at least one nation — if not the world — as if it were a game.

    Regardless, I'm not writing off the expansion yet. I like Wuk Lamat as a character. I'm eager to see Tural. But there do seem to be some red flags that the writers don't understand the characters or the world they're writing, and that has me concerned. I hope I'm wrong.
    Im with you here.

    It is entirely possible the situation in Tural was explained very differently to Urianger and Thancred than it was to us. Given Thancred's wry smile when eavesdropping, im assuming they are treating it as a game, not a political struggle. I really dont think Urianger would ever betray us again.

    Estinien will likely get scooped up by a third faction, and Y'shtola, who went oddly unmentioned, possible the fourth with promises of learning secrets of teleportation to the first.

    The Scions and their motivations dont concern me as much as getting railroaded by Wukie into joining her crusade.

    Im not concerned yet, but was hoping to see, at the very least, a third dialogue option saying something to the effect of "I'll go to evaluate the situation, but I'm not making any promises." That alone would have made me feel better.
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