Okay they weren't lying about the relic

[Halivel]

Tbh I suspect the general reason for tomes based enchantments is that the relic itself is locked behind a 4 expansions long side story questline. Which most veteran players seem to not take into account, because majority of them played through it as it was released. Ivalice (which Bozja was locked behind), in comparison, wasn't nearly as long despite having three dungeons in it.

Now, if you're a new player who's just about to start it - yeah, looks like a bit of hussle. Not saying that only requesting tomestones was necessarily a right decision (variety never hurts, so I understand why current version is frustrating for some), but I can kind of see why they did it this way.

That said something also tells me that if DT relics will be grindy - we'll see the whining again, perhaps even more so than now. Possibly from the same people, too. Wouldn't be the first time it happens, so prepare the popcorn ig. /shrug

[AnnRam]

Next time SE should remove stats from weapons/armor so casuals won't complain about "wasting their precious time" playing a video game online.

[Gullis]

Tbh I suspect the general reason for tomes based enchantments is that the relic itself is locked behind a 4 expansions long side story questline. Which most veteran players seem to not take into account, because majority of them played through it as it was released. Ivalice (which Bozja was locked behind), in comparison, wasn't nearly as long despite having three dungeons in it.

Now, if you're a new player who's just about to start it - yeah, looks like a bit of hussle. Not saying that only requesting tomestones was necessarily a right decision (variety never hurts, so I understand why current version is frustrating for some), but I can kind of see why they did it this way.

That said something also tells me that if DT relics will be grindy - we'll see the whining again, perhaps even more so than now. Possibly from the same people, too. Wouldn't be the first time it happens, so prepare the popcorn ig. /shrug

I've thought of this too. I guess we will see in DT, as they can't use that as a reason anymore

[Saraide]

Tbh I suspect the general reason for tomes based enchantments is that the relic itself is locked behind a 4 expansions long side story questline. Which most veteran players seem to not take into account, because majority of them played through it as it was released. Ivalice (which Bozja was locked behind), in comparison, wasn't nearly as long despite having three dungeons in it.

Now, if you're a new player who's just about to start it - yeah, looks like a bit of hussle. Not saying that only requesting tomestones was necessarily a right decision (variety never hurts, so I understand why current version is frustrating for some), but I can kind of see why they did it this way.

That said something also tells me that if DT relics will be grindy - we'll see the whining again, perhaps even more so than now. Possibly from the same people, too. Wouldn't be the first time it happens, so prepare the popcorn ig. /shrug

It very well could be a freelic again since their goal this time around seemed to be for people to complete many relics instead of just one or two.

[Supersnow845]

I would be surprised if they didn’t go back to tying it to field content

VC had a terrible drop off in people doing it (SS-70% MR-40% AI-30% of capped playerbase) and struggled to entice anyone into it because of its terrible reward structure, Bozja meanwhile sat at 90% for SF, 70% for Zadnor, 50% for dalriada; it’s debatable how much of that was attributed to forced progression by the relics but the retention of progression through the content is much better and the relics would probably have a non zero impact on that

They are playing a dangerous game making field content without a core tenant like a relic to entice people in who don’t normally like field content, the other big thing they can easily include is fast levelling but I’m assuming if they are giving field content a 3rd(5th) shot they are going to tie whatever they need to it to make sure it doesn’t fail

[Halivel]

It very well could be a freelic again since their goal this time around seemed to be for people to complete many relics instead of just one or two.

I've thought of this too. I guess we will see in DT, as they can't use that as a reason anymore

Yeah.

There's also a matter of a lot of system-level upgrades they're doing for 7.0 (some of which were shown and some most likely were left in dark because it's not like they always show everything) - and while most of those aren't the battle content team, they're still resources, which also means budget and whatnot. So yeah, there's a bunch of things that could've played into their decision on making EW relic set the way they did.

With most of that technical work being behind them when DT comes by, there really shouldn't be any other reason to go with a similar approach anymore, so we'll see where it goes.

[Kaurhz]

Tbh I suspect the general reason for tomes based enchantments is that the relic itself is locked behind a 4 expansions long side story questline. Which most veteran players seem to not take into account, because majority of them played through it as it was released. Ivalice (which Bozja was locked behind), in comparison, wasn't nearly as long despite having three dungeons in it.

Now, if you're a new player who's just about to start it - yeah, looks like a bit of hussle. Not saying that only requesting tomestones was necessarily a right decision (variety never hurts, so I understand why current version is frustrating for some), but I can kind of see why they did it this way.

That said something also tells me that if DT relics will be grindy - we'll see the whining again, perhaps even more so than now. Possibly from the same people, too. Wouldn't be the first time it happens, so prepare the popcorn ig. /shrug

Honestly, I don't think the reason for the tome infestation is down to it being locked behind a 4-expansion spanning side-story, as in many respects the requirements for Bozja was just as long (Granted, Bozja is easy anyway) when you factor in how much you needed to sit through as well.

It would be enough to warrant making the initial step simple, but not subsequent steps. This to me just sounds like they wanted to streamline the whole process, regardless of what the unlock requirements were.

[Saraide]

Honestly, I don't think the reason for the tome infestation is down to it being locked behind a 4-expansion spanning side-story, as in many respects the requirements for Bozja was just as long (Granted, Bozja is easy anyway) when you factor in how much you needed to sit through as well.

It would be enough to warrant making the initial step simple, but not subsequent steps. This to me just sounds like they wanted to streamline the whole process, regardless of what the unlock requirements were.

It just being single tome purchases every step is I believe down to not wanting to have 10 or more various item drops like you had in shb. To save inventory space.

[Immut]

I blame FFXVI. It's clear that the development of FFXVI took a lot of dev time away from XIV. And while I will not be buying a PS5 to play it, I've heard only good things from sources I trust on such matters. So I'll give them a pass this one time.

This doesn't mean the relic content is good. It just means I'm not mad.

[HyperiusUltima]

Whoever was in charge of relics this expansion thought it was a good idea to throw Tomestone at everything. As the community responds “This is boring”, I think they need to take a look back at Bozja and see what made it tic.

One-Time Quests were good, Tomestones were involved early on, you had variety, and most importantly you had alternatives to Bozja Field Content for Relic.

It’s important to have a variety to keep engagement, which they failed to do this expansion due to not tying the relic to Variant Dungeons. It would’ve made that content evergreen if they did, as you’d have people who do the relic engaging more with the new content instead of it being DoA.