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  1. #201
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Ah I love it, so when it's a trans person talking badly of cis, it's okay, but the opposite is not

    progressive people are indeed something else

    As a bisexual person I will stay the hell away from this "queer community" yall speak so much about, or the LGBTQIA community, yall are weird and like a cult
    She didn't criticise the performance. The harshest thing Sena said is that she isn't a trans ally and while I personally think it's asking a lot for a VA to make that kind of sacrifice or you're "not an ally", Sena clearly feels otherwise. Her tweets give the impression this has been an ongoing thing so maybe the passage of time affected her disposition. She also tweeted a bunch of other roles to give people an idea of just how widespread the issue is and I was personally very surprised-- I had no idea. I'd imagine if that is your life and something you're passionate about you're going to feel strongly about it. Again it was also Trans visibility day, Sena also tweeted that one studio she was a part of blacklisted and blocked her when she asked them why they didn't even offer two trans roles to any trans actors. I would imagine she was feeling dejected. Combining all of these factors Sena is going to be more sensitive to the issue than you or me, and may be less reasonable.

    The worst mistake the transphobes made was finding the tweets becuase the thread itself gives you all the context. It wasn't even targeting the actors but the magnitude of the roles, as Sena makes clear. Hence trans visibility. There's more visibility if trans actors are in these popular roles of trans characters.

    I will also repeat again whether it's intentional misinterpreting of events or not, thank goodness trans people have some representation and protected speech because if all we had is the heteronormal perspective we would be drowning in mischaracterizations, fallacies and stoicism.

    https://twitter.com/senabryer/status...o5kp3aRBQ&s=19

    https://twitter.com/senabryer/status...MOW7k0JZA&s=19

    https://twitter.com/senabryer/status...g6IytlsHw&s=19
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 01-20-2024 at 02:10 PM.

  2. #202
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    hydralus's Avatar
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    I agree the face is uncanny. The voice seems fine, and overall the character was pretty fun so far. Hopefully it means a nice fun adventure ahead. Need a bit of a palate cleanser after the embodiment of depression and the embodiment of edgy.
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  3. #203
    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    The character herself is great. The Japanese voice actor conveys such a high energy tomboy persona that it's infectious.
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  4. #204
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thighland View Post
    There's something oddly addicting about watching people bait eachother into arguing about trans people.

    Love that image of Tifa
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    Note: Taking advice from a players alt, is like taking advice from a voice in a dark room. Criticism is a two way street remember that!!

  5. #205
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    Zanelle Solainteau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    "No one cares" is not an argument. You're dismissed. Sena is not in any way a hypocrite because a. YES minority groups absolutely matter. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. "Women" is not a small sub group that lacks representation. Trans women are. B. Trans women are women. In the same way Gaia apples are a type of apple. Learn it fast, quick, and don't quote me again. You clearly lack the capability to understand basic concepts. If a recipe calls for Gaia apples, you can't use "apple". If a recipe calls for "apple," you can use Gaia apples.

    "People are people" lmao. Yes let's go back through history and just tell everyone that. Read a book or something, wow.

    Why don't we just head over to Israel right now, or travel back in time to WWII. The Civil War. Hiroshima. "Don't worry guys, people are people!".

    I also forgot to mention Sena did not call for anyone to be ousted. In fact she dissented from her peers by asking for the VA to voluntarily step down in a sign of solidarity and they declined. This is why your post is so incredibly dangerous-- not only do you not acknowledge the existence of minority groups but you also didn't actually read the tweets and made up your own version colored by bigotry...which btw, your targeting of a trans person is one of the exact reasons they're a protected minority lmaoo.
    You don't sound like an inclusive person. Others being exclusive in the past or present, doesn't mean you have the right to be exclusive to others.

    BTW, I am in a minority group, and many people in 'minority groups' don't like people like you.

    It's because you foster hate over love.

    I read the VA's post. She did want people ousted. Even telling people to step down is still horrible.

    Edit: You also are an example of why 'woke' is considered a bad term, but I will not give up on you as a person. You are redeemable. You do not have to keep going down this path.
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    Last edited by Zsolen; 01-21-2024 at 12:42 AM.

  6. #206
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    Mostly_Raxus's Avatar
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    Rax Ryujin
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    Quote Originally Posted by KayRadley View Post
    National Socialist German Workers' Party imagery
    isnt usually people like you looking to blame someone else for your problem generally the ones that take your skewed view of "tolerance" too far.. you start putting everyone in categories and ousting the "lessers" from your circles and soon their jobs and homes, and lands... soon you start justifying your hate against theses people on the grounds that removing them will make your idealist society a better place... eventually its become so socially acceptable to hate these people soon you will start celebrating when they are attacked in public as some kind of win for your side... eventually it catches up to you and you and your wife are cornered in a bunker...
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    Last edited by Mostly_Raxus; 01-20-2024 at 07:41 PM.

  7. #207
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    Phoebe Iris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    The worst mistake the transphobes made was finding the tweets becuase the thread itself gives you all the context. It wasn't even targeting the actors but the magnitude of the roles, as Sena makes clear. Hence trans visibility. There's more visibility if trans actors are in these popular roles of trans characters.

    I will also repeat again whether it's intentional misinterpreting of events or not, thank goodness trans people have some representation and protected speech because if all we had is the heteronormal perspective we would be drowning in mischaracterizations, fallacies and stoicism.

    https://twitter.com/senabryer/status...o5kp3aRBQ&s=19

    https://twitter.com/senabryer/status...MOW7k0JZA&s=19

    https://twitter.com/senabryer/status...g6IytlsHw&s=19
    This is known as entitlement behavior. Getting jealous or upset that someone else got a role that you felt DESERVING to get because of what you are. That's what entitlement is.
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    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

  8. #208
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    Tulviel Norolim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    The voice actor is terrible, the personality is worse, her face looks uncanny, fake, terrifying and completely out of place, everything about this character is the epitome of the wrong direction this game has been taking.

    It's hard to believe I'm living in a time where I appreciate Stormblood and Zenos more than this effluvia.
    What the hell? Have I played a different game? I actually found her amazing and beautifully silly, which fits perfectly into so many narratives and characters in FF14. For me her voice perfectly fit her character, which I found playful, funny and witty. Finally another character that can have some fun, is relatable and likeable.
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    Pay your surgeon very well to break the spell of ageing.

  9. #209
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    So you've never been to LA?
    Sure, I've worked in LA. But I'm not sure how an ad hominem (focused on me) and a red herring diversionary statement that avoids engaging with my feelings about the vocal performance has any relevance whatsoever. If you like the vocal performance, great. Someone else has every right to give a critique, too. Please respect others' opinions. There is no need to be rude.
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  10. #210
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Jessa Marko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
    Sure, I've worked in LA. But I'm not sure how an ad hominem (focused on me) and a red herring diversionary statement that avoids engaging with my feelings about the vocal performance has any relevance whatsoever. If you like the vocal performance, great. Someone else has every right to give a critique, too. Please respect others' opinions. There is no need to be rude.
    Apologies, my intent was not to be rude. I bristled at your "'accent' or whatever we're calling it" simply because it is definitely an accent and consistent with some I hear in Nevada and SoCal.
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