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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Narrator: They did not, in fact, know better.
    Oh, I'm sure they do. There's just always going to be some people more interested in dragging out a fight than actually minimizing harm.

    Of course, one could argue that being here, participating in this thread, keeping it anywhere near the top, and giving people like [gestures broadly] the chance to keep talking to anything other than empty air isn't helping, so! May this thread burn in the fire that it deserves.
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    Last edited by Sindele; 01-20-2024 at 09:28 AM.

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    The voice is unnatural, and not in a "oh wow, cool" way. Sounds dopey with that "accent" or whatever we are calling it.
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Ah I love it, so when it's a trans person talking badly of cis, it's okay, but the opposite is not

    progressive people are indeed something else

    As a bisexual person I will stay the hell away from this "queer community" yall speak so much about, or the LGBTQIA community, yall are weird and like a cult
    I had noticed the trend of more and more LGBT+ people moving away from the so called LBGTQIA community, at least that is the case here in the States.
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    It's not my opinion, it just isn't equivalent. Men and women are not minority groups. Black men are, trans women are, etc. So representation for them in all kinds of acting is important. SE also does this all the time...in XIV and other titles. The infamous Forspoken, Barrett in VIIR, Sazh in XIII. It just makes sense. Why would you cast a minority group any other way as long as it's within your power?
    No one cares about minority or majority. People are people. You figure it out eventually. Just vary your sources more.

    A person is a hypocrite for wanting to play a character that is not trans, while they are trans themselves, but push for non-trans people to be ousted from a job where they play a trans character.
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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    Straight White Christians (especially men) are the biggest minority, most persecuted and least represented in just about everything today. That's a fact.
    No, it's not a fact. That's just how you feel.

    Please give us examples of this "most persecuted" that is happening. Or is your problem that you are being told that if you choose to discriminate against others, others will be allowed to discriminate against you in turn?

    They're also not least represented. They're no longer a majority but that is not the same as "least represented".
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica_VS View Post
    The voice is unnatural, and not in a "oh wow, cool" way. Sounds dopey with that "accent" or whatever we are calling it.
    So you've never been to LA?
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  7. #187
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    The more I read these threads, the more I realize there aren't any actual problems with Wuk Lamat's acting, and the better I feel about Dawntrail.

    It's very clearly just the people who have issues with pronouns in bios coming out of the woodwork.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    I had noticed the trend of more and more LGBT+ people moving away from the so called LBGTQIA community, at least that is the case here in the States.
    Sadly we have to basically make it known that we dont agree with these communities because people automatically assume we are with them, I am not in any way shape or form agreeing with them.
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  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Embran View Post
    The more I read these threads, the more I realize there aren't any actual problems with Wuk Lamat's acting, and the better I feel about Dawntrail.

    It's very clearly just the people who have issues with pronouns in bios coming out of the woodwork.
    No, that is exactly the problem, but you have you and yours plus the transphobes themselves blocking others from speaking out.

    Go fight your trash political battles on Twitter. This is a forum for a video game.
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  10. #190
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Ah I love it, so when it's a trans person talking badly of cis, it's okay, but the opposite is not

    progressive people are indeed something else

    As a bisexual person I will stay the hell away from this "queer community" yall speak so much about, or the LGBTQIA community, yall are weird and like a cult
    I didn't know people were talking badly of cis people? I didn't really know cis people were in real need of representation either? like that's the key difference.
    I mean for sure theirs certainly people who are progressive who are also bad, but "being progressive" or "woke" is a easy way to parody and box people who are actually very reasonable, not everyone is mind you but that's just the nature of every community, you will get extreme examples.

    The "queer community" tends to stand up for LGBTQ+ Rights which I don't think is cult like at all, In reality most lgbtq+ people (like me) don't really consider themselves a active massive part of the community, I'm my own person at the end of the day, but do support the general rights such as lgbtq+ rights.

    I don't know if you're one of those "both sides" people or just dislike people who are generally are apart of that community, but when you argue that people can say they didn't like the VA without being a phobic person (which is 100% true, I agree there), that it's unfair to label those people as "anti trans" as they have valid criticism, but you also generalise everyone apart of the community as this cult? or anyone pointing out that yeah theirs actually some people who are doing it to simply just to be transphobic.

    This discussion is pretty tiring honestly, People being defensive about identity's might seem wild but the reason why people act like that is because they generally have to, Most LGBTQ+ People don't want to have to constantly talk about this sort of stuff, but they still have to do it because of people calling into question their own rights.
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    Last edited by Rithy255; 01-20-2024 at 10:21 AM.

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