Okay they weren't lying about the relic

[Mostly_Raxus]

people say they dont want mindless farming "like wow" but do they understand that everything being locked behind daily's is what wow players considered mindless farming...

hey FFXIV community, hate to break it to you, but what do you think daily roulettes are? at least in wow the "mindless farm" changes when a new patch drops, we are stuck running praetorium till the end of time.

calling the forced dailys "roulettes" doesn't make them any less your maw daily's. at least in wow you did them to get to better content, in ffxiv you do them to burn out and quit for 4 months at a time

[Werewolf_Summoner]

My issue with some of the older relics is how much of a pain they are to do one or two expansions later when the zones etc don't have the critical mass that made them reasonable when they were new.

This is why I have more Lux weapons than any other relic - because all of those steps are very accessible.

This time around they went a bit too far, and made it all tomestones.

I think I would have liked to see a couple of steps that used the duty finder, and pushed us into repeating some of the dungeons and trials from 6.x. Thanks to roulettes, they'll always be accessible and would give a little more meat to the questline.

[Stormpeaks]

See?
This is why the game its on the current state.

No grind.
No difficulty
Less content per patch
Boring jobs etc.

They don't want mindless grinding but they'll gladly do roulettes every single day for tomestones and other rewards.

Who's going to tell them that roulettes are also mindless grinding but timegated to one time each a day ?

[Battler-Ushiromiya]

See?
This is why the game its on the current state.

No grind.
No difficulty
Less content per patch
Boring jobs etc.

Play a different game

[Dhalya]

Both relic formats have some disadvantages.

I disliked how some of the old relic steps weren't focused on the player having fun with current expansion but rather populating old boring content so it pops for others faster.
New format at least let's you do whatever is fun for you, however the amount of tomes needed is very low and the relic lost all sense of feeling rare or special.

My ideal format would be similar to ARR books, slowly taking you to every single part of the expansion for example: do these 3 specific fates in EW areas, do these 2 hunt marks, do 2 dungeons, do a path of variant dungeon, do beast tribe quest, raid, trial etc.

[AnnRam]

Play a different game

Yeah sorry I thought I was playing a """""""classic""""""""" MMORPG and not a poor version of Second Life.

The second SE tries to do something different this forum gets infested with " But Im having anxiety... I don't want this content because looks hard and feels overwhelming. pls nerf"

[TakumiHarada]

You want to do the Nier raids 3 times each? Or do a level 80 dungeon 10 times? Or do every single level 80 trial? PER WEAPON?
Or even better, make it doable by Blue Mage so everyone makes up a 4-BLU party to burn through the most efficient dungeon over and over again?

No thanks. At least this way I can do different contents through the roulettes and get the other daily bonus as well.

[Mostly_Raxus]

You want to do the Nier raids 3 times each? Or do a level 80 dungeon 10 times? Or do every single level 80 trial? PER WEAPON?
Or even better, make it doable by Blue Mage so everyone makes up a 4-BLU party to burn through the most efficient dungeon over and over again?

No thanks. At least this way I can do different contents through the roulettes and get the other daily bonus as well.

yeah my favorite way to play the game is not at all as well /scarscasm..

[LaylaTsarra]

We are getting new relic zones thank you SE. Eureka and Bozja have some of the best content this game has to offer in my opinion. Just took a Hali alt though Eureka for her WHM relic and plan on doing BA with her at some point. Hit 25 in Bozja yesterday and Dalraida is up next. Never gets old for me.

This relic grind has been a real disappointment for me personally and I'm glad they are at least for 7.0 going back to instanced zones.

[Y2K21]

Dailies and roulette are literally the same thing.