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  1. #2661
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    I'll just take some open dialogue and honest explanations from Yoshida

    Instead we get them going in precisely the opposite direction, hiding numbers because they are seemingly embarrassed of their ineptitude but also unable to actually do anything to solve this.
    (10)
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  2. #2662
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    I'll just take some open dialogue and honest explanations from Yoshida

    Instead we get them going in precisely the opposite direction, hiding numbers because they are seemingly embarrassed of their ineptitude but also unable to actually do anything to solve this.
    They also constantly refuse to talk about healers since pre-ShB launch, I suspect that Yoshida expected the changes to be massively unpopular, remember how he skipped over the healer rework slides very quickly? Almost like he didn't want people to talk about it too much and instead focus on other things.
    (2)

  3. #2663
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    Cordelia Emery
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    I think its safe to say that healers will forever now be boring.

    But dont let that stop you from trying to ask for changes.
    (1)

  4. #2664
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    Malto Thoris
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    And I will not stop keeping this on the first page, since it really doesn't take much to do so. That and Yoshi and his team are fools in regards to healers.
    (3)

  5. #2665
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    I don't think they care about Healers. Their answer to Healer engagement is just going to be them telling you to play Warrior. They seem to be doubling down on their 1 DPS button and 20 heal button format.
    (2)

  6. #2666
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    Personally, I feel like it's rather pointless to continually bump the thread. There's not much new discussion that can be had, and keeping it on the front page may invite antagonistic people to come in and make wild claims, as has happened before multiple times.
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  7. #2667
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Personally, I feel like it's rather pointless to continually bump the thread. There's not much new discussion that can be had, and keeping it on the front page may invite antagonistic people to come in and make wild claims, as has happened before multiple times.
    pot meet kettle
    (0)

  8. #2668
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus View Post
    pot meet kettle
    Yeah, you're so clever, aren't you? Bet you smirked at how clever you thought you were.
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  9. #2669
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    It may indeed be the case that at this point this topic can't really be constructive anymore now that dang near every single minute aspect of healers have been dissected and looking over all the facets of it as well. But I want it to this blemish on Yoshi P to stay here and and if people get riled up over it, let them.
    (5)

  10. #2670
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    Noah Orih
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    It’s a desire to want to see the conversation stay relevant. The problem has not gone away, and the people frustrated by it are not any less frustrated, and there’s a fear that if the conversation ends, that these issues will just be quietly swept under the rug. But yeah everything that can be said has been said at least a dozen times at this point.

    Someone will pop in and go “I’d rather just heal more” or “if you want to DPS then play a DPS job”, and I or someone else will once again push the boulder up the hill explaining why that isn’t a viable solution by itself or why that’s a double standard that no other role experiences respectively. But there’s nothing new to say, and at this point, whatever direction they’re taking healers in for DT is likely set in stone for the next 3 years. All we can really do is wait and see what happens.
    (8)

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