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  1. #111
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    VirusOnline's Avatar
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    Yoshi Papa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    I don't understand how this got okay'd by SE. I genuinely don't. Perhaps it's the corny dialogue that's the issue, but man, how can anyone defend this line delivery?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CfnJsSZeyg&t=27s

    JP voice actor in comparison.

    https://youtu.be/OKNJ01gSxV8?si=093NrqUQQY3D1xfS&t=719
    To be fair, it doesn't sound like the JP VA is hindered by having to deliver an accent.
    I am assuming until proven wrong that non-english VAs are not having to imitate an accent alongside their original/native langauge.


    Edit:

    In addition, as a non-jp speaker, English VA is just not on the scale/nuance/quality that JP is. Big reason as to why JP is preferred over ENG dubs.
    And in the ears of a english speaker, JP VA just sounds better and for reasons I can't quite explain why. Perhaps I've had too much anime in my younger years haha. Voices are more expressive and perhaps it's because of anime? I don't think ENG speaking countries really have a big VA scene.
    BG3 is a big outlier, the VA there is superb.
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    Last edited by VirusOnline; 01-17-2024 at 09:56 PM.

  2. #112
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    Elodie_Einsbern's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    Do all the VAs get this level of vitriol attention? Or just the one everyone knows is trans?
    Yeah, how about you take a stroll over to Audible.com...

    A bad performance is a bad performance.

    Maybe watch some anime while you are at it, and go to forums or discord servers talking about the casting choices. Trust me friend, most people don't care who you are, its if you did a good job or not.
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  3. #113
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    Thighland's Avatar
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    Shoko Azrael
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    To be fair, it doesn't sound like the JP VA is hindered by having to deliver an accent.
    I am assuming until proven wrong that non-english VAs are not having to imitate an accent alongside their original/native langauge.


    Edit:

    In addition, as a non-jp speaker, English VA is just not on the scale/nuance/quality that JP is. Big reason as to why JP is preferred over ENG dubs.
    And in the ears of a english speaker, JP VA just sounds better and for reasons I can't quite explain why. Perhaps I've had too much anime in my younger years haha. Voices are more expressive and perhaps it's because of anime? I don't think ENG speaking countries really have a big VA scene.
    BG3 is a big outlier, the VA there is superb.
    In my honest opinion, they shouldn't bother with the accents.
    It can work, but most of the time it doesn't.
    All the other dubs don't make this an issue, so why does EN have to?
    It shouldn't be that hard to give Wuk a fitting voice.
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  4. #114
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    Sariel Arthonas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    Do all the VAs get this level of vitriol attention? Or just the one everyone knows is trans?
    Just look at all the characters that had wildly different vocal qualities between JP and EN dubbing. Like that one lala in ARR that sounded like Barry White on testosterone in the JP dub but didn't in EN, to Tsukuyomi that sounded like a little girl in JP and like a granny (according to Japanese players) in EN. No other VA got zeroed in so much for sounding "too different from the JP voice actor", I wonder why? I'd wager most people don't go out of their way to compare and contrast the voice of every new NPC they meet in game.
    Or an entire race (Viera) that doesn't sound British and nobody got a problem with that, but Twelve forbid a character from a different continent speaks with a different accent.
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  5. #115
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekh View Post
    Since the game's japanese I would like the other languages to follow the same practices; if you use a woman or a woman-sounding voice in japanese do the same in other languages.
    Wuk Lamat does sound like a woman. Her voice is similar to mine.
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  6. #116
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    You know its common for Va's to have roles that don't match their gender?

    Honestly, i felt some of accent felt off in delivery, but i think that's just because they are a new character. Had no idea the Va was trans and franky i dont think it matters. Yes the performance wobbled at times, but overall it was good and certainly carried the energy of the character.

    I hope they stay and improve over DT.
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  7. #117
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    Tehmon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alarath View Post
    Just look at all the characters that had wildly different vocal qualities between JP and EN dubbing. Like that one lala in ARR that sounded like Barry White on testosterone in the JP dub but didn't in EN, to Tsukuyomi that sounded like a little girl in JP and like a granny (according to Japanese players) in EN. No other VA got zeroed in so much for sounding "too different from the JP voice actor", I wonder why? I'd wager most people don't go out of their way to compare and contrast the voice of every new NPC they meet in game.
    Or an entire race (Viera) that doesn't sound British and nobody got a problem with that, but Twelve forbid a character from a different continent speaks with a different accent.
    You're kidding? Yuyuhase has like one or two voiced scenes and doesn't play a big part of the story. Even with Pipin, his track record is pitiful in terms of voiced cutscenes and in general being important.
    For Tsukuyomi sounding like a little girl in JP does not ring true at all. Yotsuyu in general ticks the same archetype in both dubs, an evil seductress, and even if the English VA has a deeper, raspier voice, she did an amazing job with her voice acting.

    Wuk Lamat's English VA is not doing an amazing job with the voice acting though (for the time being, at least), WHILE being very different from the characterization, tone and vibe established with the Japanese voice acting. All this while being a main character in the next expansion so we are going to hear a lot of Wuk Lamat unlike Yuyuhase, Pipin or Yotsuyu/Tsukuyomi, so this is a cause for criticism and concern for some people, and why some are opting to perhaps changing to JP voice acting for this expansion.
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  8. #118
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    I like how the Voice Actor outright states that they automatically block people with a blue checkmark on their profile on twitter.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwadTheFrog View Post
    Yeah, VAing so bad it made me sign up on the forums just to add my voice to it. Kind of incredibly insulting to have my own culture be represented by an american putting on a really fake accent. As an actual native speaker of both portuguese and spanish, I cringed with every line. And I was excited to finally have some South America love.
    This is easily the most disappointing thing about it but it's not the VA, it's the devs.
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  10. #120
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    How is she whiter than I am???
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