Okay they weren't lying about the relic

[EZGIL]

doing HW relics recently. The entire thing is basically all poetics with a few more interesting things added in.

Surely next expansions relic's will be tied to the rumored new Field Operation and people can complain about how hard it is again.. or something.. (assuming they did at the time)

[Wasselin]

doing HW relics recently. The entire thing is basically all poetics with a few more interesting things added in.

Surely next expansions relic's will be tied to the rumored new Field Operation and people can complain about how hard it is again.. or something.. (assuming they did at the time)

HW relics were basically just poetics. EW relics aren't really different from the past except the duties aren't assigned. You do whatever you want for tomes. The whole reason they probably assigned those duties in the past was to keep the duty finder churning. It wasn't to create engaging gameplay. It's kind of funny that people are nostalgic for it.

People complain about everything, so yes they did complain about Eureka and Bozja. Look at this thread, people are complaining that something they already knew was going to happen happened. They persist in complaining even though a new field operation has been announced.

[Saraide]

HW relics were just poetics. EW relics aren't really different from the past except the duties aren't assigned. You do whatever you want for tomes. The whole reason they probably assigned those duties in the past was to keep the duty finder churning. It wasn't to create engaging gameplay. It's kind of funny that people are nostalgic for it.

No relic ever was. They were always designed to be a boring grind because this is an MMO and while the genre has made large steps away from the likes of OSRS it can not shake off its history entirely.

[strawberrycake]

HW relics were basically just poetics. EW relics aren't really different from the past except the duties aren't assigned. You do whatever you want for tomes. The whole reason they probably assigned those duties in the past was to keep the duty finder churning. It wasn't to create engaging gameplay. It's kind of funny that people are nostalgic for it.

People complain about everything, so yes they did complain about Eureka and Bozja. Look at this thread, people are complaining that something they already knew was going to happen happened. They persist in complaining even though a new field operation has been announced.

The difference with the HW Relic and the EW relic grinds are solely based within the design philosophy for each. EW is meant for a single player experience and HW is meant to bring the community together. In HW you had Fates, Dungeons and Trials and Items you could grind and you had savage farming for light steps. Fun with randoms and friends alike. The state of the game was different back then, Servers had entire communities and people knew each other and had fun within that community. THAT is why it's so memorable.

The EW relic removed ALL OF THAT for *choice* And it's a lack luster experience due to the game itself being lack luster, If Dungeons and Trials and All the other content wasn't so boring to do, then I'm p sure people wouldn;t have had much issue, if servers weren't so screwed by DC travel, or if we had Region Wide PFs, then the EW relic wouldn't feel so ass. The entire reason the EW relic is bad, boring, uninspired, is because it's base is all of that.

This is not rocket science.

Also Unless it was outright stated, the new group content isn't directly connected to relics. Him Bringing up Eureka and Bozja doesn't mean, Feild Opertions = Relics.