Okay they weren't lying about the relic

[Stormpeaks]

I do in fact find roulettes fun. Get to meet new people, the content is fun yet fast, you get a lot of rewards and I can get enough tomestones in a day or two. It's honestly not even grinding it's just doing content. I never said it wasn't ok with Eureka or Bozja but to say it wasn't a grind is just false, especially when we take into consideration of Eureka where it can be sometimes hard to do because it is very much a group activity at the starting levels, otherwise you're just constantly bashing your head against a wall if you can't find anyone to do it with.

Again, it's really not a problem. If you want to do Eureka and Bozja please, go ahead, but nothing is lost by them not tying relic weapons into a exploratory zone. Again, it's the biggest not-problem I've seen people got overly worked up over, especially since tomestones of comedy are only really used for lunar envoy which you can easily outlevel with dungeon gear or Diadochos gear.

What do you mean you get to meet new people, everyone is speedrunning in roulettes to be done as fast as possible because it's so boring, people barely say "o/" to each other that the first boss is already reached by pulling all 3 packs of mobs at once before the boss

also LMAO at the reward part, and calling roulettes content, it has absolute NO DIFFICULTY, its a complete faceroll that requires absolutely no skill at all

and yes it is a problem because people like you who are playing this game to not have to do content are a plague and are ruining the content of this game, if you dont want to do content, please dont do the content, but some people want to you know, actually play the game and have something to do.

stop pretending that roulettes are a hangout simulator while they are nothing but a boring faceroll mess that people just speedrun to be done for for the day

[Noox-115]

people barely say "o/" to each other

I stopped saying "o/" and gg after Satasha tbh XD

[DisasterGayofCrisis]

What do you mean you get to meet new people, everyone is speedrunning in roulettes to be done as fast as possible because it's so boring, people barely say "o/" to each other that the first boss is already reached by pulling all 3 packs of mobs at once before the boss

also LMAO at the reward part, and calling roulettes content, it has absolute NO DIFFICULTY, its a complete faceroll that requires absolutely no skill at all

and yes it is a problem because people like you who are playing this game to not have to do content are a plague and are ruining this game, if you dont want to do content, please dont do the content, but some people want to you know, actually play the game and have something to do.

Ah so it is just the "I got the shiny and now I'm better because of it" mentality that creates toxic player environments in games. Removing relics from exploratory zones doesn't remove the zone or content, saying someone is a "plague" because they don't agree with something that really is not a big problem is itself a toxicity plague. Again, at no point did I say these zones or content in the game shouldn't exist, in fact I love some of the content, I think Eureka is a cool idea just like variant dungeons or Island Sanctuary but the removing of relics from these kinds of things is quite honestly not going to stop people playing it.

Yes, roulette is content and yes, people do like doing roulettes. At this point it's not other's going "I don't like content" it's you going "I don't like content"

[Stormpeaks]

Ah so it is just the "I got the shiny and now I'm better because of it" mentality that creates toxic player environments in games. Removing relics from exploratory zones doesn't remove the zone or content, saying someone is a "plague" because they don't agree with something that really is not a big problem is itself a toxicity plague. Again, at no point did I say these zones or content in the game shouldn't exist, in fact I love some of the content, I think Eureka is a cool idea just like variant dungeons or Island Sanctuary but the removing of relics from these kinds of things is quite honestly not going to stop people playing it.

Yes, roulette is content and yes, people do like doing roulettes. At this point it's not other's going "I don't like content" it's you going "I don't like content"

i'll let you stay in your delusions lmao, i have nothing left to say, the fact you think roulettes are actually proper content says enough

[LittleImp]

What do you mean you get to meet new people, everyone is speedrunning in roulettes to be done as fast as possible because it's so boring, people barely say "o/" to each other that the first boss is already reached by pulling all 3 packs of mobs at once before the boss

The only comment I have seen someone make in a roulette in the past two months, outside of 'ggs' at the end and 'o/' at the start, was a single male viera that made a really creepy unprompted sexual comment about a boss while no one replied.

I've filled my entire friends-list twice in this game, and I can confidently say I have never added a single person after 'meeting' them in a roulette loool.

[Stormpeaks]

The only comment I have seen someone make in a roulette in the past two months, outside of 'ggs' at the end and 'o/' at the start, was a single male viera that made a really creepy unprompted sexual comment about a boss while no one replied.

I've filled my entire friends-list twice in this game, and I can confidently say I have never added a single person after 'meeting' them in a roulette loool.

yeah this is too delusional for me honestly lmao, dude out here pretending that people are like hanging out in roulettes, that doesnt happen, it aint a sightseeing tour (tbf arguable considering how easy it is) or a discussion board, people speedrun it so they're done with it for the day asap

[EgilTheStressedMage]

yeah this is too delusional for me honestly lmao, dude out here pretending that people are like hanging out in roulettes, that doesnt happen, it aint a sightseeing tour (tbf arguable considering how easy it is) or a discussion board, people speedrun it so they're done with it for the day asap

Nah, they want everything for nothing.

[CKNovel]

as someone who hates eureka and bojza i'll take tome grind any and every day

How about both.
Allow to grind through exploration field or through tome grind.

[SilverObi]

I'm a bit confused, all the relic grinds were collect item/tomes while grinding out content of debatable degrees of difficulty. The items were painfully easy to obtain meanwhile DR, CLL and Dalriada were solved fights and frankly dull to do the requisite times to build every weapon. Grinding out easy content over a long period of time is part and parcel to these weapons, I even remember when people stockpiled poetics (or their equivalent) to jumpstart a next stage back in the day. And I'm also confused why anyone cares that they're "easy" to obtain when they've always been easy.

I remember when relics were called welfare weapons due to the ease of their acquisition compared to needing to clear coils or savages but now it's suddenly a bad thing that people are getting a decent weapon long past the point they're even necessary. Relics never required "skill" to get outside of maybe Titan HM when the servers were complete garbage, they only required a lot of time. So I have to assume that because someone can finish a step in one go instead of 2-3 weeks makes it somehow worse?

Or is the issue being muddled with the actual problem to some people, that there is no time-wasting grindy combat content to do while waiting between patches/for the expansion?

[Bonoki]

How do you even start a conversation with someone after a roulette anyway?
"Hey you did really great back there. Id like to do more roulettes with you. Are you busy, wanna hangout for acfew?"
Like how do you do that without sounding like a creep to the other people? lol