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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    Except that's still entirely speculation on your end. Unless you somehow have access to the hard numbers showing a drop in subs for XIV is the reason for those losses, then you are just speculating. Because FFXIV isn't their only MMO or thing contained under their MMO segment. You're just putting all those losses on XIV with no real proof. However, anything I say on those losses would also be speculation. Because looking at the financial reports, they don't specifically say either or. If people are speaking with their wallets, that's a good thing because it might get SE to wake up.

    Also can you stop saying shit like this?



    It's really fuckin' creepy. Among other things. But it's mostly just creepy.
    Nah people like you and so many others seem to care so much about new players but no one, including CBU3 cares enough to give them a solid foundation that actually teaches them the game. Then they whine and call every player who isn't babying them toxic. You treat new players like pawns to prove your point. People may not have hard numbers, but new players arent a hard statistic either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    Nah people like you and so many others seem to care so much about new players but no one, including CBU3 cares enough to give them a solid foundation that actually teaches them the game. Then they whine and call every player who isn't babying them toxic. You treat new players like pawns to prove your point. People may not have hard numbers, but new players arent a hard statistic either.
    I...No. Just no. I only speak for myself, but I try to help where I can. I do wish they would put more effort into giving new players a better understanding of how the game works. Cause god they suck in that regard right now.

    But I refuse to take the mudslinging of treating them like pawns and such. Have a good one.
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  3. #123
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    I don't think "predatory" is the way to describe the game. More like stagnating and needs a complete revolution like ARR was back in its time. Which Yoshida said he's delivering in this expansion. But so far in the keynotes we've had I've seen only more of the same, no revolution at all.

    Unless they're about to reveal something big in the remaining event/keynote I guess.

    We still don't have a release date, preorders, or job adjustments and new skills. So I think something big is coming as Yoshida said himself. I hope it's not too underwhelming.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryskim View Post
    We still don't have a release date, preorders, or job adjustments and new skills. So I think something big is coming as Yoshida said himself. I hope it's not too underwhelming.
    Whilst it is unusual for us to not have a release date, we have never had job adjustments/new skills revealed at a fan fest. Job changes always mainly come from the media tour where people get hands on with the new jobs. This is also the time we get the job action trailer. The only other place we can see new skills is from the benchmark, which you will see jobs use 1 new skill, either in your face or in the background.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    Riding maps are not available at release of any expansion and require grinding to get them, him promoting it is predatory as it could just be in game, They could LITERALLY just make our company chocobos faster naturally.

    Also saying it's not mandatory, thats like saying, oh there gambling in the game but it's not mandatory, theres a reason the EU is going through hell to get this shit removed from all game lmfao. You're expecting people in XIV to have self control, when they can't even control themselves to not attack the devs over new races? Sad to say it but this does all fall into the companies lap. They are preying on people. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not true.

    And this isn;t the first time SE has preyed on it's consumers, Looks at all of their gatcha games.

    Another Example, DE, Makers of Warframe where you could literally pull a crank for 1 dollar and reskin your Kubrow, people would pull the crank and spend MASSIve amounts of money. Tey removed it the same week. Was it peoples choice to do something for a cosmetic? Yes. But it was predatory.
    So then why are you continuing to do business with a company that you feel is predatory across multiple games?

    I can't comment on other games that SE makes/publishes since I don't play them. I can comment on this one.

    FFXIV is not predatory. The SDS Fenrir is optional. It only gives players a small advantage while everyone is stuck on the ground. The moment flying gets unlocked, the advantage disappears. It doesn't speed up how fast cutscenes play or how fast players can click through NPC dialog or how fast they can kill a monster or how fast they can click a bunch of objects or how fast they can walk when stuck carrying an object or how fast they can hide and seek with the NPC they're trailing.

    So what if someone beats the x.0 MSQ 2 hours faster than others because they've got one? It's a negligible advantage when there's no competition happening in the first place.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    Wait, I forget, did you get a mount speed increase without a map in SB areas? If so then the 4.4 maps were a second boost. My memory is a bit foggy on that and I can't just go check in game right now. Cause ya know...
    Due to dropping support for PS3, they were able to increase mount speed everywhere to 1 star (this was retroactively applied to MSQ quests, except in Shadowbringers and Endwalker where this comes from bicolor gemstones). The 2 star speed increase in all areas came from doing hunts. The 2-star speed increase was made available at the tail-end of Stormblood and it was surprising that it stopped happening in Shadowbringers and Endwalker. We are still without the 2-star boost.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Due to dropping support for PS3, they were able to increase mount speed everywhere to 1 star (this was retroactively applied to MSQ quests, except in Shadowbringers and Endwalker where this comes from bicolor gemstones). The 2 star speed increase in all areas came from doing hunts. The 2-star speed increase was made available at the tail-end of Stormblood and it was surprising that it stopped happening in Shadowbringers and Endwalker. We are still without the 2-star boost.
    Aaah, ok ok. That explains a lot of things then. I don't think we'll be seeing a second boost, either because under the hood we technically have the first or something or just...they decided one boost is enough since folks will just use flight. But thank you for the info, much appreciated.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    This is just flat out false. Gemstone vendors were immediately available at the start of ShB and EW and so were the riding maps. They were rank 1 in ShB and Rank 2 in EW. Rank 2 is 10 fates. 10. Which is enough to get your fate challenge log entry done and get you the gemstones to buy the riding map.

    Just a few examples pulled from the XIV wiki.





    The only riding maps that were not available at the time of expansion release were the Stormblood area maps. Those were released at patch 4.4. But that's likely because they put work into making riding maps available for HW and ARR areas at launch of Stormblood. Which they were.



    Should they have done that for the SB maps too? Yeah. But...I doubt that was some nefarious scheme to force people to buy the Fenrir.



    I mean...yeah? But then again, this is seeming like a tall AF order these days.


    A cosmetic mount and actual gambling functions are two VERY different things. The Fenrir is not mandatory to play the game. That's just a fact. Trying to equate it to gambling is just...kinda gross.



    Careful. Don't break your back moving that goalpost.
    i dont think u realize how much of an issue that sds fenrir mount was in zadnor/eureka and bozja so ill paint the setting

    zadnor launches and its packed with a full isnatnce, the fates are all deing within 30 seconds - 1 minute and spawn anytime anywhere. if youre a new player in the zone, u dont have the riding map. so.. u cant keep up with these ppl who finished it. but k'lets say the entire grp is new.. 1 set can go 1.5x faster with sds fenrir. and that meant those with it got the fate and those without it didnt. i undertsand u dont think its an issue, but i was there during this dude. and i saw it
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

  9. #129
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    lol, no one is forcing you to play this game. If you don't like it anymore then don't play it.
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