I feel like i cant support Squex or cbu3 anymore

[sindriiisgaming]

ngl.. im just sick of seeing things in the game getting worse, the quality of content lowering, the amount of content lessening, the gap between content getting wider and the new expansion information being fragmented and not having much to it.. (no release date, no job action trailer.. 3 trails before the final one) all for the sake of drawing things out, or delaying things to not be called out

the cashshop has become predatory to the point where it feels like they respond to players begging for content by adding new cash glam or $400 figures with predatory emotes.

im starting to look at this company, this game.. and feel disgust in the place where i used to feel respect for them having built this game up so well. Im currently playing monster Hunter world, and im asking myself.. am i excited for dawntrail, yea.. but im also kinda repulsed by it too. cause the idea of giving them more money to keep predating on players in a way that now feels kinda dispicable.

you are free to tell me to unsub, leave give you my gil all the ususal toxic rubbish, but i wonder; how, you- the people who DO feel this way continue to justify youre support of FFXIV
and im not asking that in a mean way.. im asking it legitimatley. how DO you do it

[Musashidon]

people like to believe there is a perfect paradise where if there wasn't a cash shop or wasn't these statues or anything else they dislike about this game or any other, that all the stuff they make would be put into the game and added for free.

it's a nice idea but what actually happen is all the things they make for these other things just wouldn't exist.

i want more content from SE and not just for 14 so i am happy to give money for dumb things i don't need but want when i have the extra cash otherwise it means nothing to me.

[sindriiisgaming]

people like to believe there is a perfect paradise where if there wasn't a cash shop or wasn't these statues or anything else they dislike about this game or any other, that all the stuff they make would be put into the game and added for free.

but its not free.. when you pay youre monthly sub that covers the cost of everything. and should be the final cost, osrs doesnt charge real money ontop of a member sub for other items like outfits and emotes and they dont cut content. this paradise DOES exist, because the fans rebelled and made it exist

it's a nice idea but what actually happen is all the things they make for these other things just wouldn't exist.

*based on what?
* entertaining the idea ur right, they just would'nt add anything else to the game. but that would only make there laziness more blatant

I want more content from SE and not just for 14 so i am happy to give money for dumb things i don't need

but thats a horrible defense.. disney omly went into there renaesaunce when don blurth and dreamworks made better content
ffxiv 1.0 only got better when ppl left. blindly supporting the company untill they make something to keep u amused for 30 hours is a horrible motivem and honestly.. its not going to be fruitful

[Musashidon]

but its not free.. when you pay youre monthly sub that covers the cost of everything. and should be the final cost, osrs doesnt charge real money ontop of a member sub for other items like outfits and emotes and they dont cut content. this paradise DOES exist, because the fans rebelled and made it exist

of course they don't cut content SE hasn't cut any content either that's my point, things in the cash shop only exist because they made the cash shop and it pays for itself. the content was never made to be put into the actual game as rewards they were made so they could make extra money.

[sindriiisgaming]

of course they don't cut content SE hasn't cut any content either that's my point, things in the cash shop only exist because they made the cash shop and it pays for itself. the content was never made to be put into the actual game as rewards they were made so they could make extra money.

but they have cut content.. where is youre relic grind?

[Musashidon]

but they have cut content.. where is youre relic grind?

you mean the relic that was just the same thing it is now just thrown into old content? sure sure call that content when it's just making you repeat old content.

[Fyrebrand]

Just throwing my two cents in here: Yoshi-P and team have talked about some of the complications they've faced with workload for the past while. Updating the graphics engine has been quite the hefty undertaking. Converting every MSQ dungeon in the game for Duty Support ended up being significantly more work than they initially expected. Covid hit them hard, as it did for many companies -- and while I realize the worst of that was a while back, delays like that can have a ripple effect that pushes back content long after the fact. They're also working on porting the game for Xbox, updating the dye system, and they're adding female hrothgar. And... well, let's not pretend developing FFXVI didn't drain resources from the team as well.

You can argue some of these are valid or invalid as excuses, but I don't bring them up as excuses, I bring them up to point out that they're all one-time things that cease to put extra demands on their workload once they are finished. Things like Duty Support, the graphics update, new race, dye channel update, the Xbox launch, are all investments that will make the game better across the board. Once Dawntrail is out, they won't have to worry about any of that stuff, it'll already be integrated. Whatever you can say regarding Endwalker's patch content lull, what's done is done, and I think we have reason to believe things will improve with Dawntrail, on onward.

Regarding the cash shop, well, I can't defend that. I hate it. I bought the game. I bought the expansions. I pay my subscription fee. I don't like that they ask for more money on top of that, and some of the prices are unreasonable to boot. I don't even really believe the claim that "cash shop money goes back into supporting FFXIV." It may be technically true, but there's probably something scummy going on behind the scenes, like the CEO looks at FFXIV's cash shop revenue for the year and says "Great, we can fund FFXIV that much less next year, because you're making it up in cash shop sales."

people like to believe there is a perfect paradise where if there wasn't a cash shop or wasn't these statues or anything else they dislike about this game or any other, that all the stuff they make would be put into the game and added for free.

It's not that everything in the cash shop would have been put in the game for free, it's that the developers and designers only have time to make X amount of stuff in a day. Their workload is divided between making game-earnable things, and making cash shop things. Did Square Enix simply hire more staff to account for this, so that the regular flow of free game-earnable content did not lessen in the slightest? We don't know, but frankly I would find it hard to believe.

On the other hand, many cash shop items were available for free during limited-time holiday events. In most MMOs, holidays come back every year and if you miss something you can probably get it next year. Not so for FFXIV, they just take it away forever, and if you want it then you can buy it with real money. Setting aside the subject of the items themselves, even the quest content disappears and can never be played again. As a result, they put very little effort into making holiday content because it is so brief and disposable. Holidays in FFXIV are just vectors for future cash shop items, and that's a huge part of why they are cursed to always be terrible.

[Zeastria]

At the end of the day a game company is a business, their goal is to make money.
And apparently sub money alone isn't enough ...

[Stormpeaks]

My God dude can you just leave and stop with the daily complaint threads, like for real if this game is oh so bad just leave already, why are you still here, leave us with our "bad" game and go play something else

[Nebelheim]

My God dude can you just leave and stop with the daily complaint threads, like for real if this game is oh so bad just leave already

The op seems to flip flop between defending the game to then posting these doom threads of how the company is horrible for selling merchandise and being predatory with it's cash shop and not producing enough content. Then will make post about how we have too many jobs and defending cash shop purchasing. One week they seem to dislike the game it's community and the company then the next week defend it then go back to calling out the company for apparently being predatory for making money.