Take a page from League of Legends for PVP

[OgruMogru]

Bumping this so devs have another chance of re-reading it.

Only 2 things stand in the way of PVP being good in XIV now.

#1. Netcode
#2. Multiplayer queue options

SE, why go the whole way to redo PVP and not fix the final issues. Please notice.

I wanna duo queue CC with my partner u_u

[Ath192]

I wanna duo queue CC with my partner u_u

All they have to do is make sure that when duos or trios queue up they get matched to other duos and trios. Keeping it single player is hurting the potential of PVP mode big time.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Reminder that Feast Training used to have duos able to queue when it was infinitely more impactful.

Having duos be able to queue in Casual CC will be a lot less impacted than back then given the increase from 4v4 to 5v5, making Healers not mandatory anymore and kills not being the end-all-be-all to win.

More importantly, it would offer additional ways to play with


wait for it


your friends.

[Burmecia]

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cant people who want friends in pvp to play with make using partyfinder a thing? it's right there.

[Ath192]

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cant people who want friends in pvp to play with make using partyfinder a thing? it's right there.

Vastly more inefficient. That’s like saying, wasn’t PvP already there before CC, why not make that a thing? It was right there. The whole point of putting effort into PvP was to make it better. This change would make it better.

[KitingGenbu]

I mean, ignoring how badly designed this game's combat is for pvp is okay I guess. Combat works alright for pve, but in pvp you really notice how clunky it is in terms of skills and just how things work in general. MCH is a prime example of having 3 ranged skills then one you need to be on their butt to use all in the same button (who really thought putting bioblaster in with chainsaw/drill/andtheotherone was a good idea?). Having friends to play something bad with is alright at times but I dont think you all are gonna want to continuously do it.

[Ath192]

I'm gonna bump this for new Xpac. I want to play with friends, and I think PVP would get a huge boost from people enjoying a repeatable activity with friends in this game.

[Shougun]

Others said it but to chime in, I bet it would substantially increase queue time. If SE has the data to show it won't then go for it. But definitely keep them separated and or exactly 1:1 pairings (no 5 premade vs 2 premade and 3 strangers), premade will definitely rofl stomp non-premade (not only a "just think about" but we know as well because you used to be able to lol).

Interestingly it might also increase the ability to win trade, although I wouldn't care if they stopped putting the leaderboard style rewards in it (pick some other means of reward, like you get points per fight with a weak FATE evaluation so if you did essentially nothing you get bronze, and the higher PvP rank you also get a multiplier so everyone is encouraged to do wel, but there is no lock out from win trading). Except for specific situations I'm imagining win trade isn't the most common, just people playing a lot, but in this way it's a big oh well if it was even a concern because you can still be part of it.

[Ath192]

Others said it but to chime in, I bet it would substantially increase queue time. If SE has the data to show it won't then go for it. But definitely keep them separated and or exactly 1:1 pairings (no 5 premade vs 2 premade and 3 strangers), premade will definitely rofl stomp non-premade (not only a "just think about" but we know as well because you used to be able to lol).

Interestingly it might also increase the ability to win trade, although I wouldn't care if they stopped putting the leaderboard style rewards in it (pick some other means of reward, like you get points per fight with a weak FATE evaluation so if you did essentially nothing you get bronze, and the higher PvP rank you also get a multiplier so everyone is encouraged to do wel, but there is no lock out from win trading). Except for specific situations I'm imagining win trade isn't the most common, just people playing a lot, but in this way it's a big oh well if it was even a concern because you can still be part of it.

If anything I think it would reduce them because more players would do this as a PVP and chill activity with their friends. I am sure of it.

Streamers could also group up with their followers and have a good time. Everyone benefits.