Can we have an honest conversation about the Scions? Dawn Trail

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I don't really want to argue or debate you but this seems completely out of step with reality and a denial of what's actually in the story just because you don't like the Scions. They absolutely have individual traits and complexity, character growth. They even disagree at times, which they are teasing we might see more of in Dawntrail. So despite not getting rid of the Scions, I feel like they are heading in a direction where you might get some of what you wish -- to see the Scions in a different mode besides saving the world.

Just because they are heroes, with good intentions, doesn't mean they aren't fleshed out characters. I mean sacrificing your life to save the world sounds pretty ambitious. Do you need Thancred to kick a puppy and Y'shtola to take up chain smoking in order to declare them "complex"?

We're not, we're discussing. For example the responses in this thread haven't been one sided, meaning that there is plenty of support on both sides to both keep and get rid of them. That's revealing in and of itself. I guess some people do like them after all.

As far them being heroes with good intentions that is well and fine, we just don't see them desire anything but the good of Eorzea. And that's not how typical people behave. How many people do you know that their only thoughts and motivations in life are saving the world? all the time? I'm not sure I find the premise of 2 twin teenagers and their friends going around fixing all of the worlds problems that compelling of a story. I would rather meet more relatable characters who have different ambitions and desires, love arcs, and fleshed out backgrounds. I don't even think the scions are allowed to have relationships with anyone so that the player feels like they could ship their characters with any one of them, but that really stunts their development. I feel like Yshtola finding a way to be together with Runar and getting married would've been an excellent way of retiring her character for example. It's not dark, it's actual much more human and relatable than constantly finding crisis to avert.

So no, I don't hate the scions, I just find them rather uninteresting. I do feel the game would be feel more fresh if it wasn't "The next adventure with the scions 7.0" when the entire 10 year story concluded.

This doesn't mean I want to see them become drug addicts or kick puppies lol.