VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[Caro178]

What does "unofficial" even mean in this regard? What counts as an official interview? Whether or not it was said at fanfest? Whether or not it was said in a liveletter? Does it have to come with pictures and footage? Because there were plenty of things at fanfest that were mentioned and had no key art at all, so are those not official either? When you boil it down this is such an arbitrary distinction when those were his words on questions he chose to answer in-game. Folks said he had to be lying of confused about the Adventuring Foray too until that was confirmed at fanfest, but I guess it also doesn't count because there was no artwork?

[VerdeLuck]

What does "unofficial" even mean in this regard? What counts as an official interview? Whether or not it was said at fanfest? Whether or not it was said in a liveletter? Does it have to come with pictures and footage? Because there were plenty of things at fanfest that were mentioned and had no key art at all, so are those not official either? When you boil it down this is such an arbitrary distinction when those were his words on questions he chose to answer in-game. Folks said he had to be lying of confused about the Adventuring Foray too until that was confirmed at fanfest, but I guess it also doesn't count because there was no artwork?

I would consider it to be when he's speaking officially for SE at an event, presentation, or interview. I wouldn't consider offhande questions he answers while logged in on his personal account to be considered official statements, the same way I don't consider the personal remarks of a Community rep to be the views of SE.
If that's the case that he is speak as an SE rep where was the official translation? You shouldn't be making official statements in one language and leaving others out. Where was the verification at Fanfest that they were even working on it? If they were officially stating they were working on it at that fan event then why wouldn't they just mention it at fanfest as well?

SE's silence at fanfest speaks volumes. They aren't working on this in any major capacity and they do not have this planned for the near term, otherwise they would have included it as an aside for their upcoming content, since they weren't afraid to show a thousand foot view of other content we won't be getting till 7.3 at the earliest like the foray zone and the lifestyle content.
Trying to use a single line at an unofficial Q&A where he was asked questions casually as some evidence that they are working on it is so silly. I'll believe it when it comes out of the mouth of an SE rep when they're actively representing SE at an event, announcement, livestream, or interview with an outlet. Something that has some kind of accountability behind it other than being posted on a blog and translated by reddit.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Their "we're working on it" is about as believable as George RR Martin saying he's still working on the next Game of Thrones book.

[DrForester]

Man, you'd think they'd have a big "DO NOT GIVE HROTHGAR OR VIERA HATS" notification for the people doing the CGI trailer work.

[Caro178]

SE's silence at fanfest speaks volumes. They aren't working on this in any major capacity and they do not have this planned for the near term, otherwise they would have included it as an aside for their upcoming content.

I think part of the problem here is simply mismatched emphasis on the relevance/importance of this subject in relation to fanfest announcements. Simply put, and I know it hurts to hear this, Viera headgear is not considered an important enough announcement for a 2 hour block where they have to go over everything from story to new battle content to the massive graphics/dye update. Now, you may consider it the most important thing ever, but clearly they do not. They also don't really like to make promises without having results to show for it.

I'll give you a great example. Viera hairstyles were not mentioned in any capacity at any fanfest at any point ever. They were referenced first in what you would call "unofficial" interviews until the 6.0 liveletter where YoshiP shared a few images including a female Viera in the EW NIN gear sporting a ponytail they didn't have access to as well as a later liveletter that included more examples. And yet Viera hairstyles were a fairly big project that saw consistent results through the entire expansion. So historically speaking "if they were working on it they would have mentioned it" is a deeply untrue statement regarding Viera and Hrothgar.

[Yencat]

It is unfortunate but as much as Fan Fest is for, well, fans, it's also a big commercial aimed at potential new players and gaming media in general to report on the game, telling everyone during the keynote that two races can now wear hats is kind of confusing non-news to most people. It could've been brought up in a panel (and maybe it was? I haven't heard.) but I'm not surprised they're leaving it for a Live Letter reading, if they are in fact doing it.

When they revealed male Viera they did make a comment saying they had made the necessary adjustments so additional hairstyles shouldn't be a problem, and this thread (myself included ) whipped into a frenzy because it sounded like male Viera would have every hairstyle available at launch. Surprised Pikachu faces when male Viera released in the same state as female Viera in terms of hairstyles, just primed to start adding more every patch. So IF they're actually going to work on headgear I can't see them doing it only for female Hrothgar.

[Pandoggo]

As a new player I fell in love with the Hrothgar instantly. None of the "weeb" type races really felt distinct and unique enough. You just have weeb with cat ears, weeb with dragon ears, weeb with dog ears, weeb with bunny ears, small gnome knock off, orc knock off, elf knock off.

It didnt bug me at all that Hroth had limited hairstyles and Im not really bothered by the fact that we cant see our helmets. Heck half of the robes I am putting on dont even allow for a helmet.

More haircuts would be a welcome addition, I feel like they ripped the haircuts from the other races and a good 3/4 of them dont really look great on the Hroth. As for headgear, that would be a huge task to make everything work/fit but it would be nice I guess, though it's not a gamebreaker for me.

Sighed - someone who only subbed because Hrothgar exist.

[Caro178]

So IF they're actually going to work on headgear I can't see them doing it only for female Hrothgar.

If they have been anything regarding updates to Viera throughout EW it's aggressively fair. Male Viera were probably ready to have every hairstyle dropped on them at launch but they chose not to do that so they would maintain parity with female Viera through updates. I expect it will be the same with female and male Hrothgar. They're going to launch with all the hairstyles and headgear male Hrothgar have access to going into DT.

And yeah, as players we all care about different things and it can be easy to forget that the subjects that are the most dear to us are not necessarily the subjects that are the most dear to the devs or other players. Being told "please wait patiently" might come across as patronizing because many Viera/Hrothgar players rightly feel like we have been patient through years of our feedback falling on deaf ears. Thus the sentiment emerges that our patience should reward faster results, apologies and a big announcement in front of everyone when... that's just not how the dev team historically goes about fixing things. They do it quietly in the background. And we know they are because there was already evidence of it in the 6.5 patch.

[LuciaMirain]

Are we getting more hairstyles tomorrow and if so which ones are left?

[CassandraJean]

Are we getting more hairstyles tomorrow and if so which ones are left?

I could be wrong but I think its just some of the mogstation NPC hairstyles left?