Hrothgar Female Improvement Thread

[Kinkarcana]

The scale and angles of the face look off. The bodies fit the archetypes perfectly but yeah the faces are just weird.

[Haillenartes]

posted my own separate thread, but i think a face with a longer muzzle, more in like with a lion/catlike/beast appearance would be good !
i really like how they are now, but these tiny edits made me like them just that much more !

Definitely think this fixes it! It's a subtle change, but I like it a lot. I think the reason the heads feel small even if they're not technically any smaller really is because the muzzle is small, but they don't exactly have human jaws either, so it just ends up feeling slightly "off". At the very least, I'd like for there to be an option in the character creator that makes the muzzles longer, because they look very flat as-is. I also don't mind having faces that look more catlike and faces that look more human... satisfies both camps, right?

It's insane some of you wanted big, bulky, male hrothgar with boobs, basically. Who the heck would want to play as that?

Me. I'd play that.

Anyways, for the most part, I like how they look, and I know exactly where my free fantasia for my female Roegadyn is going. I just think the faces could use a bit of tweaking.

[AnAverageAspie]

Assorting all my views of them. 1. I love how non-petite they look, framed rather boxy in the mid section yet still heroic. 2. Some of the hairstyles are fantastic. 3. The face with The Lost color scheme is the best out of the bunch imo.

4. I think their faces, relatively in the nose and jaw department, could be altered a bit. If male Hrothgar’s still can’t wear most head gear due to limitations, I assume females have the same. And so I don’t think it’ll make things worse if there is more dimension, width to their faces. Even the illustration shows the side profile much better than the in game, better proportion and scale to head=body. It’s just their faces look pretty small and like a costume/makeup when looking dead on or in less extreme angles.

I do not think the projected, devils advocate excuse, “it makes them look lithe and elegant” is sturdy here. Because their hairstyles and physical disposition are stark enough, from the males, to interpret this aesthetic. I assume the challenge could be that sizing up the head and face could mean that feet and hands will look too small. And then those need to size up and then gear would need to be refitted, creating a snowball. This isn’t minor like a male Hrothgar haircut, before shadowbringers, needing to be fixed because of a gap.

And so I’m okay if needing to give up “enlarging” their heads if it makes pulling out their face a bit, shrink the lower chin in, widen their mouth, while still differentiating the faces, to be more feasible. As I said, one of them looks the best out of the three for being a decent blend.

I think that some exceptional fanarts have shown that you can make characters look lithe, elegant and muscular while having more bestial, anthropomorphic faces on females.

[CidHeiral]

They look great to me and I honestly don't want to temp fate with any kind of revisions that make them worse.

[Rudje]

Me. I'd play that.

Anyways, for the most part, I like how they look, and I know exactly where my free fantasia for my female Roegadyn is going. I just think the faces could use a bit of tweaking.

Same. The only thing that would have kept me from making a Hrothgal alt once they're available was them just being Miqo'te (Tall), I would have absolutely loved a REALLY HUGE BRICK WALL Hrothgal--I just didn't think there'd be a chance in hell they'd do it once I realized Hroth men share a base with Roegadyn, and I was right.

Tweak the faces a bit, and they'll be fine.

[Jettinson]

Honestly the only real adjustment i am thinking would be the muzzle which could be slightly longer
Buuut there could be more options to adjust it in the character creation too honestly.

[GrizzlyTank]

Hopefully they didn't jump into the same pitfalls as with the last race.......

But have my doubts.

[GrizzlyTank]

They look great to me and I honestly don't want to temp fate with any kind of revisions that make them worse.

Yeah... Like with wow and alpha worgen.

Before complaints


After complaints


Least retail fixed most of it, but the stern tone to the face was lost and we are still stuck with a parasitic mullet for a hairstyle.

[Luluna]

I think they look nice enough but I feel the hairstyle well one of them looked really mullet like and was really bad to me at least. I just hope they have access to hairstyles and you do not have to fantasia to change your hairstyle >.<

[LukrShiba]

i figured out what my issue was with the faces ! ( besides the short muzzle i posted about before, but i've gotten used to it over the day )
for me, i think it's a lack of eyebrow, or eyebrow like detail. Male hroth have a pretty distinct and heavy 'eyebrow line' on their head, and a few faces have little eyebrow dots or markings that can help.
i think the eyebrows add a bit more to expressions. i did some edits, they are pretty extreme, just to show the distinction of what i mean.
i 100% would want this as a toggle feature, maybe a racial feature. it's likely something they may have already implemented on a couple faces but i think it's good to note down anyway
heres some edits i did with the trailer hroths