Does the combat system need to be reworked?

[strawberrycake]

Genuine question, can you name one time an MMO made sweeping changes to a combat system that was well received by the community? I've been playing MMOs for about 22 years now and I can't think of any BUT I also haven't played every MMO out there.

In my experience even relatively inoffensive changes usually lead to a lot of community push back if it's not a highly requested feature. I'm not saying I don't believe you, mind, just that I have seen many a community react... vehemently in the wake of combat being changed

I'm gonna use the dread word here so bear with me. And my definition of sweeping changes could be different from yours. But I'll say WoW and the massive changes made coming out of shadowlands. DFs changes so far have felt fun, it's a step away from borrowed power and it's ofc a work in progress as well. It's beginning of a new system that will be iterated upon rather then replaced, as it is the replacement itself to years of making the wheel over again that blizzard is known for. I've raided each tier and nothing has felt too underpowerd for long. It feels good actually having classes bestrong on their own and funtional without a gimmick or Set of items built in for there to be function, a return to what WoW had been prior to expansions like Legion and closer to at the very least Wrath/Cataclysm

[Atelier-Bagur]

YEEEESSS!

This game honestly doesnt feel as satisfying to play compared to other tab targeting games. Its not as reactive as it should be what with action lag and encounters feel too slow for it. This kind of thing would've worked if it did an action/turn based hybrid to compensate for it but FFXIV's combat is quite possibly the weakest aspect of today's modern MMOs (personally I feel its on par with ESO's combat)

[Minarisweet]

Just as title states,does the combat system need to be reworked, should it stay as is? Should yoshi experiment with different battle system mechanics in future content releases?

Bozja showed it can be a lot more interesting with just a few additions, but we can never have those for the sake of the raiders and their balance.

[Jeeqbit]

Just as title states,does the combat system need to be reworked, should it stay as is? Should yoshi experiment with different battle system mechanics in future content releases?

No, and here's why...

If you change a fundamental, defining feature of the game like that, a lot of people will get upset and quit.

For example, let's say it was changed to action combat with no hotbars... all the people who are used to or prefer MMO combat would not be happy and want it to go back to what they have been used to for years of their life. It's not a good business decision because of that.

Would a different kind of combat, such as action combat, be cool? Sure! But it's not the sort of risk that is smart for an established online game to take.

What they could do though is create an isolated area like Eureka or Bozja or Deep Dungeons and put a different battle system in them, because then it wouldn't affect everywhere else and the people who don't like it can avoid it.

[midnitdragoon]

No, and here's why...

If you change a fundamental, defining feature of the game like that, a lot of people will get upset and quit.

For example, let's say it was changed to action combat with no hotbars... all the people who are used to or prefer MMO combat would not be happy and want it to go back to what they have been used to for years of their life. It's not a good business decision because of that.

Would a different kind of combat, such as action combat, be cool? Sure! But it's not the sort of risk that is smart for an established online game to take.

What they could do though is create an isolated area like Eureka or Bozja or Deep Dungeons and put a different battle system in them, because then it wouldn't affect everywhere else and the people who don't like it can avoid it.

That's true, but for sake of argument, let's say this just stays limited to certain areas like how eureka and bozja are. They are seperate instanced zones with their own rules etc.

Would this be a favorable thing, something that stays within its own instanced zone, doesn't affect the rest of the game, but allows for experimentation and testing combat ideas?

[Enjuden]

It doesn't need a rework. It needs a revert back to Stormblood.

[mallleable]

Nah. Do I think it needs changes, and new ideas, yeah. But I don't think it needs a rework.

[Ritsuka-55]

Yes, let's go back to Stormblood, where people forced other people to change class or were gated out of content because MUh Metah!!!!!, please listen to this people.

[ryouma17]

if they dont rework the combat then they atleast need to do something about the combo system, pvp has all combos combined into one button why is it so hard to do this for pve, get rid of the button bloat

[AlucaDragonheart]

Yes, let's go back to Stormblood, where people forced other people to change class or were gated out of content because MUh Metah!!!!!, please listen to this people.

Yeah but at least it was actually fun back then, and not the homogenized snooze fest that we have now. The only classes that have some complexity and interesting mechanics to them right now are Monk and Black Mage.