What do we have to look forward to with Dawntrail?

[OgruMogru]

What's funny is you say those things as if they're objectively good. Exploration zones, grindy relics, criterion dungeons, expert roulettes, I have no interest in whatsoever. If you could at least admin that this was just a person preference, that'd be great, because not everyone thinks those things are all awesome by default.

As for the patch cycle, well, you might as well say "do better things faster". It's not going to happen.

If you have no interest in those activities, why do you care about other people having issues with them? If it's content you weren't going to engage with then the changes people want to see happen will never appeal or apply to you, surely? Why do you care about issues people have with parts of the game you don't engage with?

[Boblawblah]

If you have no interest in those activities, why do you care about other people having issues with them? If it's content you weren't going to engage with then the changes people want to see happen will never appeal or apply to you, surely? Why do you care about issues people have with parts of the game you don't engage with?

I have issue with someone saying that EW is objectively worse and that the game needs to focus on those things instead, because I enjoyed EW, and I enjoy where FFXIV is currently heading. What I enjoy about FFXIV might not be for everyone though, and I freely admit that it's just my opinion. If you frame your wishes as objective truth, I'll speak up.

[OgruMogru]

I have issue with someone saying that EW is objectively worse and that the game needs to focus on those things instead, because I enjoyed EW, and I enjoy where FFXIV is currently heading. What I enjoy about FFXIV might not be for everyone though, and I freely admit that it's just my opinion. If you frame your wishes as objective truth, I'll speak up.

So it's a bit of a semantics issue then, I suppose! Because obviously the games not dying there's people playing etc etc but if every facet of the game that someone enjoys ends up being the victim of missteps or bad decisions then for them it does feel like the entire game is being ruined/declining. It's silly because that means a lot of squabbling and animosity could be avoided amongst people with different priorities if people just tacked "IMO" onto whatever they're complaining about or praising. Like it's kinda tiring trying to raise concerns or criticisms over granular parts of things like battle systems and combat stuff specifically and then having to defend that position from people that claim to have zero interest in it or that, without sounding like a prick, don't know any better, so it wouldn't ever affect them anyways. Every time someone says they have an issue and they have a chorus of people pipe up "well I'M having fun" really screams "screw you, I've got mine" and it makes it very hard to talk about issues with the game without it devolving into shit-slinging.

[Boblawblah]

So it's a bit of a semantics issue then, I suppose! Because obviously the games not dying there's people playing etc etc but if every facet of the game that someone enjoys ends up being the victim of missteps or bad decisions then for them it does feel like the entire game is being ruined/declining. It's silly because that means a lot of squabbling and animosity could be avoided amongst people with different priorities if people just tacked "IMO" onto whatever they're complaining about or praising. Like it's kinda tiring trying to raise concerns or criticisms over granular parts of things like battle systems and combat stuff specifically and then having to defend that position from people that claim to have zero interest in it or that, without sounding like a prick, don't know any better, so it wouldn't ever affect them anyways. Every time someone says they have an issue and they have a chorus of people pipe up "well I'M having fun" really screams "screw you, I've got mine" and it makes it very hard to talk about issues with the game without it devolving into shit-slinging.

Agreed that being explicit with "I think" or "In my opinion" would defuse a lot of the animosity before it begins I'm bad at it myself, and yes, sometimes, you can assume someone is using the silent "imo", but a lot of times, it very much seems like they're acting as if what they're saying is the objective truth.

To be clear, and to answer the silly notion that I'm "the biggest white knight on these forums", I've had a ton of issues with FFXIV, and think I've mentioned them here on these forums before. (thanks for answering me in good faith btw, it's nice to not always just argue with people, I know I come across as condescending and dismissive sometimes/often).