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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    -There's a danger in just apparently referencing one random article on a game and acting as if it's necessarily telling an accurate story. Poke around practically anywhere from Destiny 2's forums, to fan sites, to reddit - yeah, that "gameplay" is being almost universally ripped apart. And your article from back in March then becomes this in November: https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultas...h=116679cc3947

    -The Steam data, as always, ends up supporting the growth of FFXIV when you make logical comparisons. For example, Patch 5.5 (pre-WoW exodus) launched in April 2021. The corresponding Patch 6.5 launched in October 2023. Yep - several thousand more active Steam players at the EW data point than the relevant ShB one. And that's been the pattern throughout the years. Similar points in each successive expansion show steady growth ARR --> HW --> SB --> ShB --> EW. The cycles also remain reliably regular, with the "low" point for each expansion typically occurring between the .5 patch and the immediate run-up to the next expansion's release.

    -I haven't seen any reasonable person claim that the "WoW exodus" was anything but an anomaly. The two MMO's are very different games focused on different audiences, and many people went to FFXIV from WoW not because of FFXIV itself, but to "get away" from WoW and Blizzard. It was never feasible to expect more than a small handful of that group to actually stay here, nor would it have been a sensible business approach to radically alter FFXIV just to try catering to that group. I also haven't seen any "negative press" about FFXIV recently (or at least none worth the proverbial paper it's printed on). Doomsaying is just really old at this point, especially when all of the actual data shows the game continues growing.
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    that article does not mention gameplay, just microtransactions..... And looking at reddit and steam reviews a lot of people enjoyed the gameplay and hated the campaign of course there's bound to be a negative review here and there but... I don't understand how this relates at all. Not alot of people are mentioning difficulty other than actually... enjoying it.... I see some complaint about some stuff being grindy in reddit but the consensus is the campaign sucked....

    So no, I didnt get my opinion from a single source but several. Where are you seeing people quit Destiny 2 because it was too hard? I am not seeing a single comment saying this.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheG...ative_reviews/

    "People were disappointed in the storytelling from the main campaign, I think - don't expect the narrative to make much sense. The tone, pacing, characterisation and and exposition are all off.

    That and a lot of big, controversial, changes to the game were pushed at the same time, together with a lot of reskins and reissues of existing gear, and not much in the way of actual new content such as Strikes and maps.

    Both of these things led many players to assume that this is a "filler" expansion, that feels very hastily cobbled together with a low budget.

    EDIT: I should mention storytelling aside I did enjoy playing through the campaign missions on Legend difficulty, save two key bits towards the end which felt unfortunately overtuned unless you force yourself to use and learn an un-kitted version of the new Strand subclass (which is actually killer once you fully unlock it)."

    I don't play destiny but I can only imagine legend difficulty is one of the harder modes.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 12-30-2023 at 10:36 AM.