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  1. #21
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    Kewitt's Avatar
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 100
    I don't know about ffxiv, but in wow the 1st store sold item took about 15 hours to make and made more then all of starcraft.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

  2. #22
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KenZentra View Post
    Personally, I think its awful that so much is in the cash shop. We have so many avenues for items to be introduced to the game.
    A large percentage of the items were available in the game for free from seasonal events (including many mounts, minions, emotes, glamour, maybe orchestrions). They were only intended to be available that one time, but SE was willing to let you obtain them still if you were willing to pay.

    A lot of other items come from characters in the MSQ, which again, they don't really want you to wear because it detracts from how unique those characters are, but if you're willing to pay, they are willing to ignore all that.

    The level boost and MSQ skip packs are not something they want people to buy. They want them to go through the story. But if they insist on skipping the story they worked so hard on to the point they are willing to pay, SE is willing to let them.

    There may also be primals versions of music that is again not the versions used in the game or that they intend for the game experience anyway and buying the music is meant to cost as well.

    What remains is the mounts that were never part of seasonal events and were designed exclusively for the mog station. There is a lot more controversy over these, but they are only a percentage of things on the mog station, amongst lots of things that were previously available in the game or that SE doesn't really want you to get anyway.
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  3. #23
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    Boblawblah's Avatar
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I'll never support (as in actively defend) cash shops in video games, I think they're inherently predatory and unnecessary.

    That said, I've used them myself, and feel no guilt over it and have nothing against people that do use it (unless you try to brag about spending real money on a video game as a 'look at all the money I have lul' thing)
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  4. #24
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Majority of the cash shop's contents are 9 years worth of Seasonal Event rewards and old promotional reward stuff.

    If you enable the "Online Store Exclusive" filter the various categories, it hides all the Seasonal Event stuff. And even there will be some outfits you shouldn't buy as they're gender locked, most specifically the NPC outfits.
    Additionally on the outfits, they're often rather questionably designed for when it comes to Miqo'te, Au Ra and Rrothgar as the people designing the outfits don't seem to know that races with tails exist in the game.
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  5. #25
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    KenZentra's Avatar
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    Ken Entheria
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    Goblin
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I think you're being disingenuous.

    There is simply no need for the average player to buy everything from the store or even everything in a single category.

    Level and MSQ boosts are completely unnecessary, especially if you don't have alts.

    You can be selective with which glamours and mounts you buy, if any. Some people will already have a fair chunk of it if they've been subscribed to the game for a while and earned the seasonal gear from the original events. Not everything looks good on every character, and some of the items (especially the older beach gear) are just the same thing in five different colours and gender-exclusive models.

    Do you go into a clothes shop in real life and say it's a rip-off because of how expensive it would be to buy one of everything they're selling?
    How is stating a undeniable fact being disingenuous? Roughly, the total price of all cash shop items combined is $5,417.36 USD

    I don't know why are you are trying to equate a virtual shop for a online video game to being the same as a real life clothing store. Aside from, you buy thing and see thing, there really isn't a comparison to be made. If anything, it being a virtual shop for a online video game, the total price should be considerably lower since you can't run out of anything on sale.
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  6. #26
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    Destati's Avatar
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    Aoki Kha
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SalamanderIX View Post
    We haven't seen any reduction in cosmetics or good cosmetics in-game, the cash-shop works as an asides to normal content is is extra.
    This may be a hot take, but I think this expansion has had the weakest lineup of in-game glam offerings to date, and it doesn't help that most of the dungeon sets have been recolors of old gear (I get that they're probably trying to lessen the workload for the graphical update but still). I've hardly seen anybody walking around wearing the Varsity or Salon Server's glam (and the prices for their mats show how unpopular they are too). No one seems to want anything to do with the variant dungeon glam. The sheer popularity of this patch's PVP gear and the Martial Artist's sets tell me that people have been starved for decent glam in EW. I don't know, maybe I'm speaking out of turn but I remember more people wearing and enjoying the glam in older expansions.
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  7. #27
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    KenZentra's Avatar
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    Ken Entheria
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    Goblin
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Majority of the cash shop's contents are 9 years worth of Seasonal Event rewards and old promotional reward stuff.

    If you enable the "Online Store Exclusive" filter the various categories, it hides all the Seasonal Event stuff.
    I didn't know about this filter, so I checked it out. There are 281 items in total, summing up to about $3,290.96 USD. Thats more than half the total Cash Shop money wise and about 40% of all items!
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  8. #28
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    ElysiumDragon's Avatar
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    Mimilla Milla
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    Spriggan
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    Archer Lv 92
    I've no real grievance. With rare exceptions, I just buy outfits as they're released. I've been playing since Heavensward, so it's no big deal for me to own every minion and emote in the shop, half the mounts, and many of the outfits.

    Also, discounting events, we've had no new outfits since the Iceheart Attire back in September, and no new mounts since the Garlond GL-IS back in July, so 5 months.

    If anything, they're behind on the traditional pacing of one addition every half patch.
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    Last edited by ElysiumDragon; 12-19-2023 at 01:58 PM.

  9. #29
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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Isn't alot of that stuff for train simulator actually gameplay add ons? Like new locations, scenarios, and trains?
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  10. #30
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Exclusive numbers... excluding costume sets from NPCs, weapons (which seem to be from NPCs too), orchestrions (all from the Primals or orchestral bands), boosts (which are unnecessary), seasonal event items, dyes (which have versions available in the game), fantasia (which although is only limited in the amount you get in the game, still technically gives it in the game).

    5 bardings
    26 mounts (2 of which are recolors, and 3 of which are recolors of non-exclusive mounts)
    24 emotes
    4 pieces of armor (carbuncle slippers and a moogle hat)
    8 minions
    30 housing items (mostly posters of the expansions, expansion release statues you could get real life versions of, and some carbuncle and moogle stuff)
    38 costume sets (I got this by comparing NPC sets to store exclusive and only including the ones not found in NPC sets)

    Clearly the worst categories here are mounts, emotes and costume sets. The others are whatever, don't have much in or are just about carbuncles and moogles. I feel that there are often similar costume sets available in the game to the ones that are exclusive as well.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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