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    Following this for a while over screenshots and what not on my favourite discord server, i actually only have one question, whats your end goal here. Cuz this reminds me of that guy that wrote to himself over three posts expecting answers from square and y-man himself.

    There's no way square will tell someone to take down their deco because another player or a few don't like it.
    Edit: (cuz im tired i forgor, lemme be) and for sure are they never gonna limit any furniture anymore, the last time they did was with the primal furniture stuff in hw Iirc.

    Not trying to poke fun, i just fail to see why this is still a debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerpSnake View Post
    Following this for a while over screenshots and what not on my favourite discord server, i actually only have one question, whats your end goal here. Cuz this reminds me of that guy that wrote to himself over three posts expecting answers from square and y-man himself.

    There's no way square will tell someone to take down their deco because another player or a few don't like it.
    Edit: (cuz im tired i forgor, lemme be) and for sure are they never gonna limit any furniture anymore, the last time they did was with the primal furniture stuff in hw Iirc.

    Not trying to poke fun, i just fail to see why this is still a debate.
    I appreciate you not immediately resorting to harrassment like the rest of them. My major end goal is to just see my feedback about it reach Square Enix. The only reason for this FC to put the towers up like that to begin with is to be narcissistic and draw attention to themselves. The fact that they abused 3rd party tools to accomplish that malicious goal is the only reason I brought it up. I've said before that if the towers were on the ground, as the intended placement location by the devs, I'd have no reason to have made the post to begin with, because they wouldn't be blocking anything. They may have brought the attention they wanted to themselves, but they would have done so in a way that is not so disruptive to those around them. Instead, they have made a case not only for the item to be revisited by Square Enix, but also for attention to be drawn to non-combat related abuse of 3rd party tools. They can feign ignorance all they want, but actions speak louder than words, and having multiple towers being elevated like that by a single FC was definitely disruptive to one or more of the other FCs in the ward. So what if their nearest neighbors don't find it weird or obnoxious? The point is that anyone like myself that respects those around them when placing our decorations are going to see that and think "Who does that? Who is that starved for attention?"

    I would love to come to some kind of solution so that this can be put behind us, but that can't happen as long as people are focused on this mostly one-sided drama and not the issues that were made in the original post. Making excuses like "their decorations, their choice" only generates more distaste for the fact that only Square Enix is in a position to do something significant about it. Maybe I could have handled most of it better, but I think the end result would have been the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    I would love to come to some kind of solution so that this can be put behind us, but that can't happen as long as people are focused on this mostly one-sided drama and not the issues that were made in the original post.
    gm could log in and issue warning about these artificially affected outdoor furniture items, maybe even move them down, if you claim the items use illegal coordinates.
    but until it happens, GMs either not care or are not allowed to care or intervene.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    Making excuses like "their decorations, their choice" only generates more distaste for the fact that only Square Enix is in a position to do something significant about it. Maybe I could have handled most of it better, but I think the end result would have been the same.
    I wonder if you made a giant burning swastika from Authentic Summer Bonfire outdoor furniture on your house plot, if the same people would jump in to defend you with their own "their decorations, their choice" argument.

    Not saying you should do it, but some refuse to see the forest because of the trees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAJRIS View Post
    I wonder if you made a giant burning swastika from Authentic Summer Bonfire outdoor furniture on your house plot, if the same people would jump in to defend you with their own "their decorations, their choice" argument.

    Not saying you should do it, but some refuse to see the forest because of the trees.
    From SE's prohibited activities page:

    ■Harassment
    "Harassment" is speech and/or behavior that inflicts deep emotional distress on another person. It is an extremely serious violation. Where Square Enix determines that harassment has occurred, a penalty equal to or higher than a "Temporary Service Account Suspension" may be imposed.

    It is prohibited to do this anywhere an expression can be made, such as chat (including Quick Chat in PvP content, macros, and emotes), markers, comments, or titles. It is also a violation in cases where a player character name involves a term that could be considered harassment in any way. Additionally, when harassment involves a group of players, all corresponding players will be subject to penalties.

    Below is a non-exhaustive list of behavior that could constitute harassment in Final Fantasy XIV:

    ・Discriminatory expressions based on race/nationality/thinking/gender/sexual orientation/gender identity
    ・Discriminatory expressions about a state/religion/occupation/organization, etc.

    What you are describing would constitute a place "where expression can be made" and would be an altogether different issue than a bunch of floated towers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    My major end goal is to just see my feedback about it reach Square Enix.
    If your goal was to see that your feedback reaches SE, I'm afraid you came to the wrong place. We've had evidence that they don't pay attention to the EN forums (don't know about the JP forums) thanks to some widely debated topics in the past that SE would turn around and say aren't problems for EN players.

    Anyway, if you want your feedback to get to SE try using the Support Desk Suggestion tool. You're not going to get any acknowledgement that your suggestion was received but it will be seen by someone employed by SE.

    Considering how SE pretty much ignored the complaints about the Shirogane Castle Walls when those were introduced in Stormblood (they block views worse than multiple HoH towers do), I highly doubt they're going to implement any changes just because furnishings might block another plot owner's view. You're better off getting a plot where no one else can block your view regardless of what furnishings are used.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 12-17-2023 at 04:10 AM.

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    It probably has reached SE.

    As a meme. Been reading this entire thread.
    Glad I came here today, got a good laugh.
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    Last edited by Xero123; 12-28-2023 at 02:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xero123 View Post
    It probably has reached SE.

    As a meme. Been reading this entire thread.
    Glad I came here today, got a good laugh.
    You missed quite a bit then. A lot of posts were removed because OP didn't like what was being said and reported it.
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    True, it was peak comedy. Even moreso watching them get deleted in real time. But it's still a pretty good read!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    I appreciate you not immediately resorting to harrassment like the rest of them. My major end goal is to just see my feedback about it reach Square Enix.
    I mean...

    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    The only reason for this FC to put the towers up like that to begin with is to be narcissistic and draw attention to themselves.
    ...you kind of...

    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    The fact that they abused 3rd party tools to accomplish that malicious goal is the only reason I brought it up.
    ...seem to be using your posts...

    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    They can feign ignorance all they want, but actions speak louder than words, and having multiple towers being elevated like that by a single FC was definitely disruptive to one or more of the other FCs in the ward.
    ...to get in a bunch of digs...

    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    So what if their nearest neighbors don't find it weird or obnoxious?
    ...about your neighbours...

    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    The point is that anyone like myself that respects those around them when placing our decorations are going to see that and think "Who does that? Who is that starved for attention?"
    ...instead of just making what could otherwise be a reasonable request.

    Seriously, this post of yours I'm quoting is about 50% insults FROM you AT your neighbours.

    If your "main aim" was just to ask for HoH towers to be limited in number, you could just ask for that rather than going into how your neighbours are - as claimed by you in the quoted post - ignorance-feigning, obnoxious, disruptive, malicious, attention-starved narcissists.

    You crammed all those insults into ONE POST.

    I mean... c'mon.
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    Last edited by Tyintheron; 12-17-2023 at 10:10 AM.