Time for an anti-cheat

[caffe_macchiato]

Ah, but WoW is the proof that anticheat works! Just don't google 'rotation bot'.

You mean you have to pay for that in WoW? This just proves the point that if you make cheating more difficult, it becomes more rare and expensive for people to do. It becomes less normalized, which means the game becomes more fair. Why can't we have that?

In FFXIV, plugins like that are completely free, open-source and integrated in the launcher. WoW has nothing compared to the capabilities of FFXIV's API.

[HikariKurosawa]

I'm no pro player so I don't know what the average raider thinks when they see that, but if I saw a PF that said "no addons", I'd think that person doesn't want to be parsed, which means they probably play like cheeks and drag everyone else down. So, here we are again. I think your own insecurities are so severe that you make it everyone else's problem. You don't have to be a master at the game, but people will expect you to at least know the basics of the jobs you're playing (don't cry about meta, this is literally "hit your buttons in the right order and prioritized 2-minute windows" kind of stuff). If you can't do that, you're disrespecting all the people you're playing with. Do you understand that?

Go read a guide you bot.

So, to catch up:

This is a thread born from not being able to get into a static because of logs...? Even though there are plenty of casual and midcore statics who don't care about logs?

Like, I've personally never had to submit logs to get into one, only hardcore groups really expect them because they want everyone to pull their weight with no exceptions.

Kind of funny bringing up WoW though because it's even worse over there than there. XD

Nope? Never once did I even mention the desire to get into a static. You're pushing a weird agenda.

I'm so glad OP finally called themselves out as to why they are so angry, they don't want to improve at the game, it's better to rage at parses than to improve right ? Lmao

Also the fact they say "ill play wow where it's fair" is pretty comedic considering you need epic parses and m+ score for any serious content, but I assume that upsets them too since they seem to get rejected for content in both games.

Get better at the game and stop blaming parses.



This too, called themselves out again lmao

You'd have to be a statistical outlier to be further progressed than me in m+. Good luck. How did I call myself out? I don't care about proving anything to anyone on these forums, I know that I didn't use addons. If you play games to impress others I suggest doing something else.

Just going to say if you act anything like you do on here in-game, I can see why people would want to dodge you. You do come off as someone combative and it's my way or the highway mentally.

I don't at all, but nice try making assumptions to suit your perspective? I'm an extremely easy going person in game. It's almost like people are different in totally different situations. On top of that, like I said, I have no issues starting or getting into groups in PF. It's only when I actively tried to avoid cheaters that it became slightly difficult to create a group. Only because people who use addons have a reading struggle and assume it's okay to join any party finder. We would fill up, zone into the raid, I'd say before we start "Just so we're clear, I do not want to play with people who are using third party tools as the PF description said" and someone would leave the majority of the time. After about 3 times of that happening, I unsubscribed and gave up on the game. Why would I waste over an hour of my time on a community that can't get by without cheating and isn't able to respect the wishes of other players to avoid cheaters?

If I didn't make any requests like that it would be easy to continue playing and progressing because it's not hard to make groups for savage content in PF. What is hard is avoiding cheaters. It's not about avoiding being parsed, it's about avoiding unfair play and accomplishing the savage raids without having third party tool assistance. I don't enjoy the content if someone is cheating on my team. It directly impacts my experience in a negative way. You wouldn't understand since you actively group up with cheaters in your static. Stop trying to understand things that are above your head.

[Menriq]

You'd have to be a statistical outlier to be further progressed than me in m+.

I have serious doubts about that. I doubt you stream, so you can't prove it that way. Link your character. We can do a manual verification if that is really your character or not. Just like the rest of this thread, I'm not expecting any evidence to support your assertion that you are so good at m+ like you say you are.

[HikariKurosawa]

I have serious doubts about that. I doubt you stream, so you can't prove it that way. Link your character. We can do a manual verification if that is really your character or not. Just like the rest of this thread, I'm not expecting any evidence to support your assertion that you are so good at m+ like you say you are.

Good luck. How did I call myself out? I don't care about proving anything to anyone on these forums, I know that I didn't use addons. If you play games to impress others I suggest doing something else.

Who cares what you doubt? I have nothing to prove and I don't care about credibility in this situation.

[Volgia]

How would you know if you weren't using add-ons?

You probably should think twice about what you're claiming when the source of proof comes from what you're complaining about.

Maybe they asked a friend to look it up for them then sending the friend to the guillotines for daring to use mods after.

[Rolder50]

Ah, but WoW is the proof that anticheat works! Just don't google 'rotation bot'.

Odd, I googled it and some of the main results are about massive banwaves... guess the anti cheat does work!

[Menriq]

Who cares what you doubt? I have nothing to prove and I don't care about credibility in this situation.

Thanks for proving once again that you have zero credibility at all. I think any critical thinking person can draw their own conclusions about you at this point. I'm looking forward to you seeing at the next MDI and will be rooting for you. It should be easy to determine which one you are since you'll be the one with no addons!

[Sindele]

In FFXIV, plugins like that are completely free, open-source and integrated in the launcher. WoW has nothing compared to the capabilities of FFXIV's API.

For those of you at home, this is what one calls 'a lie'. Like, blatant, bold-faced, Fox News-grade, disprovable-in-ten-seconds-by-anyone-who-looks lying. You should be better than that. You aren't, clearly, but you should be.

Odd, I googled it and some of the main results are about massive banwaves... guess the anti cheat does work!

Yeah, right between the six different ones that have been in operation for multiple years, and a bit under the article about the one that was only killed after almost a decade by a lawsuit rather than any actual engineering work.

Anyone who knows what they're looking for could kick off a mighty banwave in this game in a couple days with access to the server logs, a little scripting, and a spreadsheet. As it always has been, it is an enforcement problem, not an engineering problem.

Of course, this is assuming one has an interest in actually solving the extant botting problems, rather than grinding multiple unrelated axes under the catch-all guise of 'cheating'.

[Doozer]

Go read a guide you bot.

Am I faking being disabled, or am I a bot? Might want to pick one.

[Stormpeaks]

Am I faking being disabled, or am I a bot? Might want to pick one.

I dont think they are capable of picking a lane and sticking to it

"They dont ban bots and cheaters everyone is cheating !!!"
also them :"xeno got banned for cheating"

same thing as with you and your disability apparently,according to them, first you were fake disabled, now you're a bot, i'm wondering what is next

Small edit though to say, I sincerely genuinely hope that person is trolling, because if they are not... man lol.