Dawntrail - What abilities do you think need to be trimmed from the game?

[Morphiana]

Which abilities do you think are used too little in the current state of the game to justify keeping them around?

[Vandso]

Interrupts and Esunas should have a reason to exist, so I would like to see these kind of mechanics more in savage

[Volgia]

Crowd Control abilities on bosses for certain mechs would also be nice. Sleep and bind in savage mechs would be nice!

[Rithy255]

Uh the entire healer role could be trimmed in reality then. (No I don't actually want that, but healers need to feel like a actual impactful role, tanks also to a degree)

But for real I don't think things need to be trimmed I think the entire system needs to be reworked especially for tanks & Healers. I don't think EW's design (which is just shb but more simple) really would fit in a new expansion, Most classes I'd be clueless to what they can even add that feels unique or cool anymore. You could take out some ogcd's or useless abilities that aren't important to the class, a good example is Paladin, you got goring blade which is just a 60s burst button, when you literally have your holy magic buttons for burst, theirs no reason for current goring blade, Shield Bash is currently just a skill that exists, But would I want these skills removed? Not really I'd want these skills to be useful and have more impact to their kit, but things like merging holy spirit/circle into a cleave attack or Holy sheltron/intervention makes more sense then just removing skills that could be better.

At the end of the day I don't really think anything needs to be outright trimmed, I think removing stuff is fine at times but theirs usually nothing to replace that skill which is the issue that generally pops up, it makes legacy content feel worse when you're playing half a class, a lot of the time you get something removed/reworked into a skill that just is there for the sake of being there (goring blade again lol).

[VentVanitas]

preferably none, we should be aiming to consolidate some abilities instead of removing them. I'm tired of seeing skills get deleted and then be replaced with nothing at all.

[SomeGuy22]

Undraw
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[Avoidy]

Game's already kinda bare bones so I wouldn't remove anything. Instead I wanna give more meaning to what we already have. There're some abilities that just get used to be used, but they don't feed into a gameplay mechanic or anything. You just sorta tap them every minute or every 30/45s or whatever for the potency. For example, you know how bard's empyreal arrow gives you a free proc on your songs? It'd be cool if more of those "USE THIS WHEN IT'S UP" abilities did stuff like that. That same job, bard, has an ability called sidewinder that just gets used to be used. And it has 2 dots that you just apply with a single skill and those dots don't even affect your songs anymore. Stuff like that feels so limp and forgettable. I'm not saying there shouldn't be fluff or that everything has to have a tightly controlled purpose, but the skills that don't feed into anything at all just feel aimless. Purposeless.

Also whoever thought removing the card mechanic from AST's main party buff and putting it towards a self buff that makes the opener feel giga-scuffed and also removing lord/lady of crowns as buffs again and turning them into a feckless heal and a feckless damage spell and also removing noct/diurnal sect should please please please never touch ast again. Whoever redesigned AST for EW completely missed what I enjoyed about playing AST, which was supporting my team, having 2 different gameplay styles (regens and shields), and having a semi-luck based system that fed into my signature raidbuff. I hate these new changes. I tried to like it because AST used to be the only healer that felt engaging for me, and they completely ruined it. I hope they don't "trim" anymore. They've trimmed enough.

[AnotherPerson]

Also whoever thought removing the card mechanic from AST's main party buff and putting it towards a self buff that makes the opener feel giga-scuffed and also removing lord/lady of crowns as buffs again and turning them into a feckless heal and a feckless damage spell and also removing noct/diurnal sect should please please please never touch ast again. Whoever redesigned AST for EW completely missed what I enjoyed about playing AST, which was supporting my team, having 2 different gameplay styles (regens and shields), and having a semi-luck based system that fed into my signature raidbuff. I hate these new changes. I tried to like it because AST used to be the only healer that felt engaging for me, and they completely ruined it. I hope they don't "trim" anymore. They've trimmed enough.

What they really need is to bring more interactivity back and make classes more unique rather than trim stuff out.

AST is pretty much entering a breaking point in job kit from how empty the toolkit feels relative to certain encounters. I'm glad they took a chance to try to address the AST concerns, but the attempt they tried didn't really address any of the issues. The amount of solo-play ability AST has is abysmal because a big portion of its DPS is all siphoned into party-play buffs and balancing that out with supposed 8 other members who do higher and optimal dps -- which may or may not always exist. Not to mention, the amount of support from solely DPS buffs doesn't need a convoluted system to do what it needs to do. Literally 6 cards can be simplified into 2 different cards and due to how lackluster Astrodyne itself works, it still doesn't do well to justify fishing for the remaining seals when the cards themselves is the core mechanic of AST's job gauge. What AST needs is a lot more than what healers are afforded. More than what the entire healer role is afforded, really.

The abysmal effect of Astrodyne could've been way more impactful if it was designed to support both party play and solo play so it plays more into the support-oriented style and simultaneously doesn't make AST actually the hardest job to clear solo duties with DPS-check enrage timer, but it became the biggest joke of all by being the weakest buff and having one of the ridiculously dense weave window to execute it in due to the need for lightspeed to make those windows doable. The amount you get out of the skill simply isn't enough to really justify its design in the current toolkit.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Healing abilities on tanks. We have healers to do that.

[Eraden]

Healing abilities on tanks. We have healers to do that.

Mao agrees with Tasty Bunny.