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  1. #81
    Player Ivtrix's Avatar
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    lmfao /10char
    this guy would make for a great diversity hire in a raiding static
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    If you are participating with a static that has parses for an entire expansion's raid that you're willingly participating in, the whole group should be banned for cheating. It'd be like being on a competitive fps team where 1 person is hacking. That person is making the entire team's efforts invalid. If you're knowingly participating on the same static team as a cheater, that makes you a cheater. Be different if they weren't totally aware of the logs, but they are aware that they are participating in a static with a cheater.

    Me having the bad luck of queueing into a random group of strangers through duty finder(not party finder even) where someone chooses to log the raid, yeah that's me who is being griefed.

    I bet you're pretty stoked about elon musk developing neurolink.
    Damage meters don't give anyone an advantage.
    All the stats in it are already in the game via the battle log. The difference is, if you wanna calculate your damage via the battle log, it will take you like an hour per fight for doing the math. The game should have a better tool in game to help those who want to improve but SE doesn't want to since some people will use it to be toxic towards those who suck. That's the only reason it's not in the game to begin with. Not because its cheating.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    Damage meters don't give anyone an advantage.
    All the stats in it are already in the game via the battle log. The difference is, if you wanna calculate your damage via the battle log, it will take you like an hour per fight for doing the math. The game should have a better tool in game to help those who want to improve but SE doesn't want to since some people will use it to be toxic towards those who suck. That's the only reason it's not in the game to begin with. Not because its cheating.
    Why would you want to calculate the damage? Oh yeah to figure out the damage requirements to pass the fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Why would you want to calculate the damage? Oh yeah to figure out the damage requirements to pass the fight.
    oh no people being productive in the game ?

    no way
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Why would you want to calculate the damage? Oh yeah to figure out the damage requirements to pass the fight.
    Self improvement. Crazy concept I know.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Having dialogue about the state of cheating and allowing people to expose themselves on the official forums as users of third party software is definitely going to improve the game.

    I've cancelled my sub and I am in the having a conversation with a moderator about the state of the game through the support desk. I'm saying my piece and then moving on until things change.

    You're the one who called everyone bad though don't put that on me.
    Can only imagine the mental trauma the moderator has to put up with.
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    That said, support desk people are cool, but sometimes I feel support desk issues are like a loop. Because they relay you to game masters, but game masters can't resolve the issues so they redirect you to support desk. Loop.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    Self improvement. Crazy concept I know.
    So for a performance advantage that you can't get in game without going to extremes that nobody realistically would ever go to, or has ever gone to. Got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousPerson View Post
    Can only imagine the mental trauma the moderator has to put up with.
    If your idea of trauma is someone asking for clarification on the state of cheating in this game and what square enix is planning to do about it... You should probably stop using the word trauma.

    Truth is they don't care at all and just give a non-answer. I am waiting for a followup that will never happen. This is what they said "for now"(and ever most likely)

    Hello and thank you for your GM call.

    We have received your inquiry about our Terms of Service. You may read more about our policies for players who are found guilty of violating our Rules and Policies at this web address:

    https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...1&tag=users_en

    We are constantly striving to improve the game and our services to our customers, and are open to any feedback you might have. To submit feedback, please visit the forums at https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv and make a post with any suggestions you may have for our teams. Although individual responses are not sent, please rest assured that all comments are submitted to the appropriate parties so that they can be read and considered for future updates.

    We appreciate you contacting us about this matter. Should you have any further concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us and we will be glad to assist.

    Thank you for your patience, and best wishes to you.
    FINAL FANTASY XIV Game Master Team
    This game is dead for anyone who cares about fair play and likely always will be. Sucks but cheaters "win". It's the only way square enix can "compete" with the number 1 mmo on the market WoW. If they let anyone play their game, they will at least look like they are number 2.

    My "traumatic" response:

    I made a post on the forums, a mod posted in it, but what are you going to do about it? This game is unplayable currently if you're against cheating. If you read the responses, people are openly defending the state of the game and claiming that square enix will never do anything about cheating and that nobody cares. There is footage of a streamer cheating with zoom hacks live and calling it "ultrawide" while outputting 1080p 16:9 gameplay.

    I would just like to know that steps are being made because currently what is being said is "square enix is fine with cheaters in their game, it's a don't ask don't tell policy. as long as you're not telling others what you're doing it's okay."

    Is the game's success really dependent on enabling cheaters? If so I'll stay unsubscribed forever because I can't stand playing in a game that does nothing about unfair play.
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    Last edited by HikariKurosawa; 12-13-2023 at 01:50 PM.

  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    I made a post on the forums, a mod posted in it, but what are you going to do about it? This game is unplayable currently if you're against cheating. If you read the responses, people are openly defending the state of the game and claiming that square enix will never do anything about cheating and that nobody cares. There is footage of a streamer cheating with zoom hacks live and calling it "ultrawide" while outputting 1080p 16:9 gameplay.
    I mean SE can't do anything with your vague posting about a streamer at least give them a hint

    like he's bald and he has a cute chat.
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    Last edited by Mosha; 12-13-2023 at 02:18 PM.

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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    this guy would make for a great diversity hire in a raiding static
    That static wouldn't last very long. Even ignoring the fact that you'd get sandbagged into oblivion, imagine having to listen to the unhinged rambling about mods and probably get accused of cheating every raid night for 3+ hours straight.
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